GitHub faces a fight for its survival at Microsoft
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from baatliwala@lemmy.world to programming@programming.dev on 22 May 05:02
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from baatliwala@lemmy.world to programming@programming.dev on 22 May 05:02
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Seems there’s lot of mess in the company all because of Microsoft or name it greed or late stage capitalism but still something tells me GitHub is just too important to lose dominance in next few years, after that if any other company takes over it’ll probably be gitlab but it’s really hard to speculate on this kind of things, I hope Microsoft leaves GitHub alone, they probably will fix themselves, lot’s of developers depend on Github and migration is not easy thing for big repos I expect.
When I first became familiar with the existence of free and open source software, GitHub did not exist yet. The most popular similar website was SourceForge. (Do many people much younger than me even know that exists?)
If things could change once, they can change again.
It’ll not be gitlab, gitlab is fine but the UI sucks and no improvements in sight.
Forgejo/Codeberg is the one that will take over in the coming decade.
You think it sucks because you’re used to GitHub’s interface. I really dislike the github interface after having left it a few years ago. Gitlab’s interface is, to me, so much better and a breath of fresh air (even though it might look like the old old Github).
As for forgejo, I agree, once they get functional federation and a good CI (not a shitty Github actions clone), github and Gitlab can really fuck off. Gitlab might become a “competitor” once they have federation, but they only will do that if forgejo takes off sue to federation.
This is both wishful thinking, and would reintroduce the same problem anyway (centralization) if it would happen (the codeberg part).
I don’t take seriously individuals celebrating a move to self-hosting either. While it may look cool and ideally liberating at first, infrastructure/hosting responsibility has worse bus factors and burnout than actual development (not to mention actual monetary costs). It’s safe to assume that any code self-hosted has a high chance of becoming unreachable in 1-3 years (and yes, exceptions exist).
Solutions like radicale don’t help with unpopular repos, as you would again get a (hosting) bus factor of 1 (the dev/seeder), if that.
A theoretical solution leveraging an anonymous encrypted distributed storage network for repos would help keeping code alive for a while (after the bus hits). But unpopular content will eventually fizzle out, out of the network.
Multiple congregations of Forgejo (or something similar) communities forming would be cool. But the technology that would help them form one social block with network effects doesn’t exist*. And what’s proposed here and there (like federation for issues) doesn’t cover the code itself. And even if we get far in that direction, instance drama incidents, and attempts at exerting control over “the network” will inescapably appear.
* I don’t know if tangled counts. But judging by the amount of love ^😑^ people show the AT protocol, it may as well not exist.
tl;dr: Codeberg will not become GH-big. And if it did, it wouldn’t be a good thing. And yet there is no ideal alternative to central forges anyway, not even a theoretical one.
for open source it will be vodeberg. gotlab will do well with enterprises.
I see no way of that happening. GitHub is a huge resource for Microsoft; in terms of market penetration, people platform, but especially now with GitHub Copilot and their push for AI. They can’t let go of GitHub.
If only there were better, open-source, self-hostable alternatives… Wait, there are!
Oh common it’s not like there’s an org for mountains of code. A codeberg.org basically.
Or a method to forge jo own code repos just like that, just for dev. A … forgejo.dev … No that would be crazy. Let’s rather stick with Microsoft - after all, nothing they ever touched was bad for their user base, ever.
Forge federation can’t come soon enough. I love being able to host my own little projects on my own forge, but if anyone intended to open an issue or PR, they would currently need an account on my instance to do so.
Non paywalled link?
gitflic.ru/…/bypass-paywalls-firefox-clean
Install this plugin. It’s legit, it got banned from all of the well known github-likes so they have to host it on ru
I dont use firefox, and im on mobile, so i dont think that would work for me. Thanks anw though
I use it on mobile. Works like it’s supposed to.
Idk if the chrome version works on mobile.
If you want to get rid of nearly all the paywalls, now you have a reason to switch.
Chrome Version:
gitflic.ru/…/bypass-paywalls-chrome-clean
No source code whatsoever. Thanks but no thanks.
Don’t spread 0-effort misinformation. It takes 20 seconds to find the source.
There is a zip with the full project for ff and chrome respectively, which you can compile yourself and verify and read.
Their strategy is to “hide” it because of the years long dmca takedowns. Read the wikipedia page on that if you want some extra info.
gitflic.ru/project/magnolia1234/bpc_uploads/file?…
Reading mode bypasses the paywall
This worked 👆 👏
Use this site: removepaywalls.com
thank you - the extension doesnt work on mobile
Yessss let it die sonpeoppe can finally switch to non Microsoft alternatives.
Its already working with the Linux and Mac market shares increasing lately. Please pleeeeeaaaassssseeeee let them drop the ball.