Does anyone know if there's truth to this?
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from stinky@redlemmy.com to nostupidquestions@lemmy.world on 08 Oct 13:51
https://redlemmy.com/post/739655
from stinky@redlemmy.com to nostupidquestions@lemmy.world on 08 Oct 13:51
https://redlemmy.com/post/739655
It is being called “cv dazzle” to defeat facial recognition like that used by Facebook.
I’m wondering if anyone has experience using this in protest, or if you’ve heard local coverage about it?
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I was thinking about making a mask which is just a big QR code.
It’s been a thing for a long time, probably hasn’t been used more because masks are easier. It’s so rare though that it makes you stand out as being one of the only people using it. Which really defeats the purpose.
xkcd.com/1105/
Crazy solutions just make you stand out. A basic mask is much better.
That’s why the Porshe guys in California made it a club. One guy with a 00O00O license plate is easy to track down. A few dozen variations on the same make and model car make it a lot more of a mess.
Yeah the prosecution doesn’t have to prove one of you did it, they have to prove who all was complicit and that can be very difficult
I just saw someone with an all I and a 1 plate. I mentioned the xkcd to my wife, but glat to have the reference handy now.
If you read the page you linked it says it defeated an old algorithm that’s no longer used.
Cool, do you have any experience with facial recognition/avoidance or local coverage to share?
Not the original commenter, but basically covering your face is all you really need. If you’re worried about being tracked/identified your phone is the biggest threat.
I heard Juggalo makeup works the same way, woop woop
Semi-related, I recall seeing a YouTube video a long time ago about a guy seeing if attaching bright IR lights to a glasses frame could obscure their face from cameras while not being noticeable to people - apart from wearing a glasses frame with small light bulbs attached.
I wonder if that’s gone anywhere.
Check out the Camera-Shy Hoodie .
I’ll try to find the link for the glasses (they’re a bit pricey though). You can always make your own. More info:
7 Privacy Garments That Block Surveillance Cameras surveillancefashion.com/ir-blocking-garments-for-…
A simple DIY hoodie can fool security cameras www.popsci.com/…/camera-shy-hoodie-privacy/
EDIT: IDK if this is what you’re referring to, they’re called Reflectacles
Adversarial patterns are a thing. Joker gang from Batman beyond used clown make up to get past facial recognition. Juggalo make up works/worked for a while to my knowledge.
No not true. Batman was fiction by the way
BATMAN IS FICTION?!
WW2 navies have entered the chat
So are juggalos. Michigan is just a lie we tell so ohioans behave
You can make a mesh mask out of hi-vis reflective material. So people can see you but anything that relies on shining light at you to get a clear picture will just blow out and be pure “white” to Its optics.
It wouldn’t work on thermal imaging cameras with AI facial recognition that’s specifically trained to see past facial obstruction.
They have the ability to recognize faces through sun glasses, mask, medical and skimask, paint or makeup and certainly this. A full facial mask with aluminum would work.
Ironic but not really. That’s the old joke about a tinfoil hat. That’s what the joke refers to. Aluminum blocks radio frequencies. Including infrared (thermal image in this case)
LOL. No such thing exists in the way you’re alluding to. What crazy conspiracy subreddit did you get that on?
You peasants may be too poor to know the technology. Go search it up.
Can you just post all the applicable research in an easy-to-follow format that I can copy/paste into an angry email to someone? Cool.
Otherwise you’re a Nazi somehow.
/S
Use an search engine. Why do i have to do your homework? Do i have to tuck you in at night and read you a bedtime story too? Also you calling someone a Nazi because they didn’t do something for you is a highlight of your dullness. The irony
I work in this field. No such thing exists. Thermal Imaging, including FLR, doesn’t have the contours in 2D images needed to profile anything at all. There is no such thing as a depth ranging thermal camera sensor with complex stereoscopic images that can service contours for inference. It doesn’t exist.
army.mil/…/army_develops_face_recognition_technol…
Straight from the USA army military website. I guess you just think are competent at your job. It DOES exist.
This is saying they can map thermal to known faces. But this is far from being able to read faces through materials. Thermal/infrared doesn’t provide that kind functionality, at least to my knowledge the signal would bleed into the mask. It could work for glasses or maybe thin masks.
Look, the government lies and lies some more. This would be damning if people realize they have this stuff. That article is from 2018, they just aren’t telling you or anyone else over a megaphone.
Your take on this is inaccurate, and this is not “facial recognition”. This is pattern recognition, and shoddy at best from the description. It’s using converted 2D imaging data with heat sensor data, and reduxing the resolution down to another 2D map, and ATTEMPTING to make a match. This is what we would call “fuzzy” recognition, and is not accurate at all. Fuzzy inference takes any range of accuracy as a success, meaning if it gets it right 5% of the time, it’s considered accurate.
Bottom of the barrel bullshit that doesn’t work. Don’t even take my word for it, you can look up this same pipeline model of inference in countless GitHub repos that the original work came from and understand why.
Here’s an example:
The military would consider this a detection.
YOU on the other hand are talking some crazy conspiracy theory noise about how these cameras are used in crowds and can differentiate using heat detection maps on people wearing face paint.
NOT HOW THAT WORKS
Wear a full face motorbike helmet? It has the bonus feature of protecting against beatings.
I believe the “Anonymous” mask is traditional?
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