DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works
on 06 Oct 19:08
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Depends on which president.
In Russia, China, USA, its de facto legal.
And it also depends on which president you made the threat against, and where you are. I’m pretty sure as a US Citizen in the US, I can safely say this:
I’m gonna kill the President of PRC. I have always wanted to, I have a personal grudge his political party, and him being in that party make him my enemy. I really wanna shoot him in the face, and if I had a gun, and he was right in front of me, I’d shoot him until he dead, then reload and keep shooting.
There. I said it. Lol. FBI wouldn’t bat an eye since the US and PRC are adversaries right now. I’m gonna wait and see if PRC is gonna send their agents for me.
(I mean unless they settle on some trade deal that ends with deporting US Citizen anti-PRC dissidents? 👀)
Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world
on 06 Oct 19:52
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In reality, it doesn’t matter how legal something is.
The question is who decides if it should be enforced and when.
If you say it, it WILL be enforced. If the President said it, probably not so much.
stinerman@midwest.social
on 06 Oct 23:47
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You can say it. It’s legal as long as it’s not deemed a legitimate threat. If you disclose specific plans about how you might do so, expect a visit from the FBI.
SkabySkalywag@lemmy.world
on 07 Oct 02:30
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If a 'visit ’ is warranted your already going to jail. Pretty sure that’s considered a felony and handled by the Secret Service.
BurgerBaron@piefed.social
on 07 Oct 01:19
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Pretty dumb thing to telegraph.
Enforcement is what matters most, regardless of legality. Especially under fascists, it’s selective application.
SkabySkalywag@lemmy.world
on 07 Oct 02:26
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Are you talking about 50 years ago or present date? Pretty sure Trump would get a slap on the hand at most. Besides, he can just point his sycophants in your direction and keep his plausible deniability.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works
on 07 Oct 03:41
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When you fail an open book test…
Honestly, trump voters can’t be called [A]mericans anymore, they got [F-], now the entire class is getting punished because most present on the exam day failed, and some didn’t even show to to take the test.
It’s well known that the president of the USA isn’t allowed to say they’re going to kill people, they’re only allowed to actually kill people.
BuckWylde@lemmy.world
on 07 Oct 18:52
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Since laws don’t exist anymore (of course depending on which side you are) and the president can do whatever he wants with no consequences he can totally have anyone killed.
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world
on 09 Oct 01:34
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SCOTUS says POTUS has immunity for official acts. If he issues an EO to “kill you”. It’s no problem.
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Depends on which president.
In Russia, China, USA, its de facto legal.
And it also depends on which president you made the threat against, and where you are. I’m pretty sure as a US Citizen in the US, I can safely say this:
I’m gonna kill the President of PRC. I have always wanted to, I have a personal grudge his political party, and him being in that party make him my enemy. I really wanna shoot him in the face, and if I had a gun, and he was right in front of me, I’d shoot him until he dead, then reload and keep shooting.
There. I said it. Lol. FBI wouldn’t bat an eye since the US and PRC are adversaries right now. I’m gonna wait and see if PRC is gonna send their agents for me.
(I mean unless they settle on some trade deal that ends with deporting US Citizen anti-PRC dissidents? 👀)
In reality, it doesn’t matter how legal something is.
The question is who decides if it should be enforced and when.
If you say it, it WILL be enforced. If the President said it, probably not so much.
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I think you can say you want to kill the president, in America at least.
You absolutely can. Though the current fucktard in charge might try to stop you.
youtu.be/KivCRqfFcqY
You can say it. It’s legal as long as it’s not deemed a legitimate threat. If you disclose specific plans about how you might do so, expect a visit from the FBI.
If a 'visit ’ is warranted your already going to jail. Pretty sure that’s considered a felony and handled by the Secret Service.
Pretty dumb thing to telegraph.
Enforcement is what matters most, regardless of legality. Especially under fascists, it’s selective application.
Are you talking about 50 years ago or present date? Pretty sure Trump would get a slap on the hand at most. Besides, he can just point his sycophants in your direction and keep his plausible deniability.
Be american
Presidential condidate says he wants to take over the country
Writes the plan down and publish it for everyone
Candidate gets elected
Starts taking over the country
americans:
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When you fail an open book test…
Honestly, trump voters can’t be called [A]mericans anymore, they got [F-], now the entire class is getting punished because most present on the exam day failed, and some didn’t even show to to take the test.
Republicans can say “trans must go” and it’s not seen as a death threat, so I’d say yeah he can.
For what it’s worth: you absolutely can say those things. There may be consequences, probably bad ones, but you can definitely say those things.
It’s well known that the president of the USA isn’t allowed to say they’re going to kill people, they’re only allowed to actually kill people.
Since laws don’t exist anymore (of course depending on which side you are) and the president can do whatever he wants with no consequences he can totally have anyone killed.
SCOTUS says POTUS has immunity for official acts. If he issues an EO to “kill you”. It’s no problem.