Is lemmy dying?
from Uri@infosec.pub to nostupidquestions@lemmy.world on 23 Nov 14:11
https://infosec.pub/post/38054392
from Uri@infosec.pub to nostupidquestions@lemmy.world on 23 Nov 14:11
https://infosec.pub/post/38054392
I mean I don’t see much activity outside politics. Edit: As you all mentioned I’ll try blocking some political and news communities and try to find some new communities.
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No. I have blocked most politics- and news-communities and I get plenty of content and discussions.
Same, I’ve blocked every single news and politics and it’s bustling
Why don’t lemmy still not let us to block all communities with politic in name
Same. Its beautiful and the number one feature for me.
Maybe you need to follow more communities.
Tbf most people are just lurkers. So it is theoretically possible that we have bigger community on something, but very low traffic.
Which communities do you most recommend or enjoy?
Check out this feed of communities NOT focused on politics, tech, or memes: https://piefed.social/f/highsignal
And here’s a feed of meme/humor-oriented communities NOT focused on politics or tech: https://piefed.social/f/highmemecontent
There are plenty of others, those are just the ones I like.
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Interesting, I can’t seem to find highsignal when I search in Voyager.
Edit: Nevermind, Voyager doesn’t do feeds. I didn’t realize it was a thing.
Guess I’ll also move to a piefed instance. Do you know any instance that has good moderation and does not relay on cloudflare.
I think all piefed instances rely on cloudflare, tho the recent downtime made em start thinking of how to do otherwise. I keep my old lemmy accounts around in case I need them. e.g. lemmy on slrpnk.net worked OK bc they don’t use cloudflare.
https://piefed.blahaj.zone does not
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I have specifically blocked news and politics and still find enough content to never run out when I’m bored at work
You can change the sorting to show the new posts. You can also change the list to show posts from all communities from all federated instances (except from banned ones). I mostly find very recent posts.
It’s definitely not growing, so yeah.
i don’t think so. it appears to be growing tbh.
I‘ve been seeing similar comments pop up a few times already and it always confuses me. Aside from some niche interests, lemmy feels very much alive to me and there are plenty of discussions to join.
Some people wanted it to immediately get huge…
Just so it can have all the other issues big social media has.
They didn’t want something different, they wanted to be an “early adapter” of the next reddit.
Well I’m a fediverse user for years now. I once hosted my own Lemmy instance.
I kinda don’t see much content nowadays
But what is missing? What’s your sort order? Hot or scaled work really well for me. Are you just looking at everything or did you pick communities to follow? How do you discover new communities?
I go to the all feed and follow through rss. Discovering communities is a issue that i can’t find sollution
I saw a post asking the same thing the day I joined lemmy dot world with my first account.
That was a couple years ago now. I think I’m on my third instance?
I think it’s waiting for some new event that will drive a lot of people away from Reddit again to achieve critical mass and finally outgrow Reddit.
In the meantime, I’m trying to keep my little corner of Lemmy alive - my dinky little special-interest communities - so that those who don’t want to partake in the big Reddit equivalents know they have alternatives on here that are not stale.
Unfortunately, Reddit has learned from their mistakes and restricted the ability for moderators to lock down their own subreddits. So any protest actions will not be as effective as 2023.
And just recently, Reddit announced that you can no longer generate your own API keys and will need to request permission from Reddit themselves. This is the final nail in the coffin for 3rd party apps, as back in 2023 you could still generate your own API keys and continue using 3rd party apps. The silence in the public outrage against this is deafening.
Instead of taking drastic actions affecting the most amount of people, Reddit is taking smaller actions that will slowly kill off things they don’t like. This will limit the outrage, and at the same time, they get to achieve what they want.
Don't forget giving accounts the ability to hide their activity on the profile page, making bots and corporate spam accounts very easy to hide.
Making it functionally impossible to track bot activity.
Reddit, like Facebook, has the advantage of inertia: most people are on Reddit, so other people patronize Reddit, making Reddit even larger. And just like Facebook, it takes something particularly egregious from Reddit to get enough people to walk out at the same time. And you’re correct: Reddit has learned to slow-boil the frogs to avoid this.
But - maybe I’m naive - I’m banking of the Fediverse offering consistently better quality and less drama than Reddit to slowly attract people who want something better, and I’m trying to do my part to increase the S/N ratio on here.
2023 was such a wasted opportunity because the moderators chickened out. For about a week, almost every single sizeable community was blacked out. A large chunk of Reddit during that period was genuinely inaccessible. Reddit would have been unprepared for a complete mass-walkout of community moderators during the 2023 Reddit API strikes. But after a few token gestures and a few examples made of some especially rebellious mod-teams, most of the striking moderators returned.
A huge opportunity was missed by people running major communities to functionally degrade Reddit in at least the medium-term as a website. You can’t just hastily promote random people to replace moderators Reddit is either forced to remove or who leave voluntarily. The average person is likely too lazy, too arbitrary and too corrupt to effectively oversee communities of notable sizes.
The mods who left were quickly replaced.
The ones who stayed but didn’t comply were replaced too.
Some just liked being in power too much.
Most mod teams didn’t leave. They made an example of a handful of especially rebellious mod teams, albeit I believe in most cases they had a quisling near the bottom of the mod list contacting reddit to tell them they would happily take over.
But there’s a difference between doing that dozen times, and having to do that a thousand times.
The subreddit mods had all the power. If the top mods of all the communities that blacked out just removed all mods and shut down the subreddit, it would’ve been chaos on Reddits end. Most people are not well-suited to moderating.
I never see anything related to politics and just feel things getting better.
Follow things you care about instead.
When you block the political communities, all you see is good content.
When you block memes communities you realize how much lemmy is concentrated on very few topics
What are you some kind of monster?
Memes makes us lazy instead of thinking well then write some pertinent well written content people just use a meme. I enjoy memes from time to time but I don’t want to see dozens every days
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.zip/api/v3/image_proxy?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffiles.catbox.moe%2Fvxd1pw.jpg">
Why those guy on the left looks very sad and the one of the right looks so emotionless. Are all memes lovers looking like that?
The problem is that Lemmy also has no news communities, because they are all just tankie campgrounds.
Come to a space created by communists then proceeds to cry about communists
No
When did you see the most activity here?
Unfortunately we can’t filter out all the Americans but once you block and filter all the US communities and US politics communities it is quite usable and active enough to browse Hot or Top Day or what you choose. It’s not enough to browse constantly all day long but once or twice a day.
It’s growing and is a good place to contribute to honest discussion, from what I can see; I’d like to take the opportunity to compare such comments as these to something akin to MMORPG discussions.
I don’t know if there’s a complete term for the idea but saying “X online community is dying” in MMORPG communities can fuel their own death spirals as others see it and also begin to believe the game has a shrinking community and therefore will be an empty lot not worthy of your time.
I would advise that if you like what you see here, contribute and help make the communities you like flourish than contribute to a perceived decline.
Bonus points if anyone thinks I’m clever. :S
Can it technically die assuming some people still remain active and continue to use its protocols or whatever?
Its not centralized in a way it even can die in a guranteeable way. Like if Reddit closed down, there would be competitors popping up but Reddit itself the servers would cease to function and it would be dead but to my knowledge, Lemmy is built to avoid all that
No way, i get my best memes here.
Got some recommendations? I’m always looking for more places
I’m sure not everyone’s cup of tea, but I’ve been getting a kick out of Anti Meme lately.
Here’s a dump of all the meme and meme-like communities I’ve subscribed to. Are some of the better than others? Absolutely. Do some of them have memes I don’t like? Absolutely. Are some of them even dead? Probably. But I see funny memes, I hit subscribe. Also I browse All regularly to discover new stuff.
Personally if you’ve not checked out the science_memes one there’s some real bangers there.
Feels active to me… but I usually subscribe and participate in communities I want to follow and then browse my Lemmy Subscribed page. Rarely look at the All page, it gets annoying scrolling through tons of posts about topics I have no interest in.
I believe Lemmy itself is shrinking. Last I checked Fediverse Observer, it was on a downward trend (although not drastically). That said, that excludes PieFed. I think when including PieFed we’re probably growing (very) slowly.
No.
slowly yes
lemmy.fediverse.observer/stats
Yeah. Lemmy’s former growth came from external events which brought users to Lemmy. Without more of these shocks, I don’t see Lemmy growing.
I don’t have a problem with that.
The last thing I want is all of the propaganda and barely literate morons that have parasitized the rest of the internet coming here to churn it into a fucking cesspool of idiocy.
I do wish it was as funny as a younger reddit, I used to be bowled over reading comments. I fesr we have lost a spark from all the fuckery of the world.
Lemmy has lost that funny spark and energy, but it’s because of the weird niche user base. Other platforms don’t all have this problem.
You’re making the common mistake of believing that newcomers are somehow dumber than the ones who have been here a while.
No, Lemmy/piefed has a deep user base of people knowledgeable about Linux, programming, Star Wars, and a few other topics, but plenty of other topics still leave a lot to be desired.
For example, I’ve noticed that Lemmy’s userbase is probably below the internet average at picking up on satire and sarcasm.
I do t think anywhere online features people who are good at picking up on sarcasm.
I think it’s a North American thing. Canadians / Americans are shit at picking up on it irl too
I know people have posted user stats now and then. More like stagnant at the moment. Slow growth would be ideal. I’m not interested in gaining mass appeal tbh.
I remember years ago when I was just an account-less lurker on lemmy. I’d only check in once a week, and still half the posts were the same ones I saw last week.
Things have changed a lot since then, and I don’t think we’ll ever get back down to those levels; but I’d still use lemmy even if it did.
i’m good, thanks for asking! all healthy here!
lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/15975677
im taking a shit
So am I!
Where are you taking it to?
Its about the same as i remember it being like 2.5 yrs ago tbh, which is actually a good thing… it still feels very community like unlike reddit in which the amount of activity is just so insane that you cant really participate on major subreddits, and the amount of bots are just insane….
I think what happened with lemmy is that during the whole reddit API saga a lot of people were furious and hurried to any platform they found good, and specifically in lemmy… it started getting popular with a particular type of demographic which u see popular today, however there was also some courtesy and acceptance that was lost, there was a lot of “holier than thou” attitude going around which is actually a big part of the reason why i nuked my old and quite active account here (which i regret tbh coz i did have some very good discussions), but i think that ended up alienating a lot of people that might have chosen lemmy over alternatives during that time
As of now it seems pretty fine tho, the voices do seem a bit more varied or atleast nuanced, but people just no longer are rushing to quit reddit now, and the base seems stable, the upvotes comments i see now r the same i used to see 1.5 years ago…
reddit is too, I’ve heard…
Nope, I keep finding new communities every day.
In my opinion, it’s much more alive than it was back then reddit killed third party applications
It’s enough for me, I guess.
People gave Lemmy a try and went back to Reddit because it offers more content and interactions.