Why does a community called no stupid questions allow comments that say the question is stupid?
from baggins@lemmy.ca to nostupidquestions@lemmy.world on 21 Nov 11:21
https://lemmy.ca/post/55547213
from baggins@lemmy.ca to nostupidquestions@lemmy.world on 21 Nov 11:21
https://lemmy.ca/post/55547213
I asked a genuine question and had replies that ignored the question I asked and insulted me and said my question was stupid. My reply telling them to stop being rude and answer the question if they want to comment was removed by the mods.
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thats not cricket, you cant replay to a
No Stupid Questionswith thats stupid.Flag it with the mods!
Can’t speak for the mods, but I think people who subscribe here also subscribe to the AskLemmy type communities and they don’t look at what community they’re in.
Mods will do what mods will do. I think users should just downvote unhelpful comments anyway. I myself have voting (both ways) enabled, but I don’t see numbers or vote weight, but I think a lot of people do. So I don’t fully participate in the voting, but that is what it’s for.
Some communities have downvoting disabled, but as an alternative to downvoting, you can also just not upvote the comment or report it if it actually breaks rules. I don’t think being rude in the comments is against the rules, but it isn’t nice, so I usually just ignore those comments.
Being rude, in and of itself, doesn’t break the rules in most communities. Some do say to argue in good faith or something to that effect, but none really outright ban rudeness. Maybe the “nice” communities where people go to get away from drama. I dunno. I don’t read a lot of sidebars. The way I try to conduct myself generally fits with a lot of communities. The ones it doesn’t, will kick me out. And that’s fine, to a point. I mean it’s not great but it’s also not the end of, well, anything.
I tried to find out what you were referring to - was it the rude person in the vegan thread? If you look, they were pretty heavily rebutted and downvoted by the other users.
The mods uphold the community guidelines, ideally without overreach. If someone’s out of line, but not technically breaking any rules, the other users are usually good at putting people straight.
I find this question VERY stupid, and I’m sure I’m NOT the only one.
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Moderation isn’t instantaneous. Reports help make it faster.
Outside of your question, there has been some rage bait:
lemmyverse.link/lemmy.world/post/38413203
I think it would be appropriate for these conversations to be flagged and locked. I thought there was a lot more, but it seems to have been a while.
Just because that one is pretty old we are going to leave it, but in the future reports help us catch these. All of us have jobs and families outside of the community, we do this for the enjoyment of others, so reports are heavily relied on and appreciated.
Well, that’s comforting. I was mildly concerned about my memory.
Guess I’ll do my part in the future.
Thank you!
No you didn’t…
lemmy.world/post/39082490
Looking at the modlog, you had one comment removed for being flippant and not contributing to the conversation. Which is what you’re claiming doesn’t happen…
Have you ever heard the expression/joke:
There’s no stupid questions, except that one?
I take it that way. And mods can only work so fast, like others have said.
For what it’s worth, I think you had an interesting question in the other thread and most of the replies were overall either unhelpful, dumb in-and-of-themselves, or aggressive in the way that shows a person is just angry cause they can’t answer for their own beliefs in a good way and they know it
I think your absolutely right that people shouldn’t call a question stupid in c/nostupidquestions. But they can and should criticise a question for being a rant disguised as a question (eg. “Why are X people so stupid?”). More borderline is a questions that maybe meant in good faith but seems to have so many problematic assumptions built-in, that it’s difficult to even engage with fairly. It might not be a stupid question, but it’s been phrased in a way that makes so many wrong assumptions, that answering it becomes an unnecessarily difficult chore.
I saw your question about veganism, and I can imagine some people took it as way of poking vegans. Vegans get a lot of hassle online, and are often asked to justify this or that, so asking “why don’t they eat roadkill” (in so many words) could be seen as not coming from a genuine place of curiosity. I’m not saying your question wasn’t genuine, but I can imagine that other people thought so.
I do think your question falls into the “too many dumb assumptions”. There were responses along the lines of “vegans don’t eat meat, so of course they don’t eat meat that has died naturally”. And you responded with “I meant the philosophy not the diet”. If that’s true, then it was a “badly phrased” question, not a “stupid” one.
Nostupidquestions is meant to be a place to ask questions that you feel like you should know, or everyone else seems to know. If you ask confusing or misleading questions, it’s reasonable for people to respond with “that’s not what veganism means” or whatever. But I do 100% think people shouldn’t say it’s a stupid question (although, having read through the thread I don’t see anyone saying that to you…)
I mean, the problem isn’t that OP’s question was stupid. The problem is that it is rude to question people’s religious practices.
Veganism is a religion now?
It’s often framed as a system of moral philosophies and the way the impact our behavior and interactions with the world and society. So yes, in many ways, veganism is a religion, or at the very least religion adjacent. Religions aren’t limited to belief in a magical sky daddy.
To be clear, it is clearly bigotry to use “religion” as a label in an effort to be dismissive of anyone’s personal moral belief system or philosophy.
Several of the answers were interesting because they seemed to focus on social perceptions and how others would see them.
I got very much "convert the heathens" vibes off some of them - but it's probably a "broad church" within that population who associate with the term. Need some schisms and sub-sects to form, like orthodox, reformist, catholic , protestant to get terminology that represents the diversity of beliefs. I'm not sure internet will allow that once a term has meme value.
Either way it was quite interesting to me because i'm generally against animal killing and cruelty and I don't like animal testing, even for medical research, which some people think is quite extreme. But i really don't give a fuck what other people think; about as much as i expect them to give a shit about me.
There's always tradeoffs, and hide glue has some extremely good characteristics so i'd use that gladly. But i must accept that if someone needs some glue (or just a snack) and they find my corpse - have at it.
Always was
people who claim veganism is a religion do so in blind belief to dismiss it as irrational to avoid going over the moral and factual arguments it presents, most vegans became one due to evidence be that a documentary showing the meat/dairy industry cruelties. if standing against violence makes someone seem religious, maybe we need a lot more of it
::: spoiler click for more if you are curious for anyone curious to get to know a bit more if you are reading this with open mind, Dominion is a good watch (its embedded below if the Lemmy frontend you are using supports mp4):
TW: animal exploitation and cruelty exposed
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Imo the theme is questions that you’re slightly embarrassed to ask because you think you should already know it. Thinly disguised rants, sea lioning, and fetish exploration (yes I’ve seen that here) don’t qualify.
Basically a lot of the posts here are in bad faith and hide behind the same premise OP is pushing.
Never once did I suggest eating roadkill it was all the comments in the post that did that. And clearly I still have a better handle on the concept than anyone who just posted that that’s not vegan because the definition of vegan is you don’t eat meat.
“Remember, there are no stupid questions, just stupid children”
Why are you asking this question? It sounds more like a rant.
I’m sure you know moderation is neither instantaneous nor perfect. So that makes this a rant instead if a genuine question.
The community name is asperational, maybe someday it will be reality.
You got a lot of genuine replies engaging with your thoughts. I’d focus on that over the negative.
It’s upsetting to have someone leave you a rude comment and when you try and stand up for yourself the mods delete your comment and not theirs
Sure but it’s not worth dwelling on is what I’m saying.
Final edit: based on mod logs it appears this OP is being disingenuous, but the below still stands. We appreciate anyone who reports in good faith, and welcome any messages if you feel like we got things wrong.
Please report those, we will remove them. If we removed your comment for being rude and not theirs, then we did not read their rude comment calling the question stupid, and that’s our bad.
Also, my DM’s are always open if you disagree with a removal, anyone who has spoken with me before will vouch that I’m fairly reasonable as long as things don’t break rules (such as gray areas).
Edit: could you link the comment you’re talking about? The only thing I could find is this, which doesn’t appear to be what you’re talking about, but the response you gave to them was rude
This is the person I had to block on the post for being rude to me so yes. That’s the comment I had an issue with. I can’t read it anymore because I blocked the poster. It was reported for not being on topic and being rude. And yes my reply to that rude comment was also rude.
My comment was removed and the off topic rude reply to my OP was left up
I’m not sure where this is rude or off-topic to your question, it is direct but on-topic:
And then this is your rude reply to that comment, which violates the rules:
They didn’t break a rule, you did and so your comment was removed. Not to even mention, none of this follows what you claim in this post. Nowhere did they say the question was stupid, and they did stay on-topic.
I have a dislike of mods in general because most suck. But daaaaaaammnnn. Idk if you’re even a mod but i assume you are and i now like you.
Yes I’m a mod, and thank you ;]
Stupid questions exist. Allowing them into this forum is a failure of the moderator(s). /s