OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world
on 16 Mar 22:07
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Looks like America (and the rest of the world) has to suffer him at this stage, unless they go full coup de tar mode.
I wonder what the future leaders will look like for Russia, USA and China…
Skullgrid@lemmy.world
on 16 Mar 22:51
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China is the interesting one. Since Deng , it’s been an interesting and varied toss up of goals and actions mixed with pragmatism and technological improvements.
I wish Hu’s reforms went further, the oppression of minorities halted and Xi wasn’t in charge
OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world
on 16 Mar 23:16
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Mmmm a very interesting one. I guess growing up during the Cultural Revolution after having your high-ranking dad purged makes you hungry lol
OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world
on 17 Mar 01:48
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Lol sorry I got Xiaoping confused with Xi Jinping (im sick and my head is blurgh).
I was commenting on Jinping’s focus on power consolidation and breaking the term limit.
But watching China has been very interesting, especially their grip over global critical minerals and how the rest of the world is reacting. It’s been a wild ride for lithium stocks on the ASX lol
Doomsider@lemmy.world
on 16 Mar 23:22
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Good thing no one has set a precedent for kidnapping or blowing up leaders.
We thought we couldn’t do worse than Bush, but here we are. I’m not holding my breath for the future. I’m expecting 4 years of someone not a total asswipe and then we elect mecha hitler or someone somehow worse.
OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world
on 17 Mar 01:31
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Oof i was watching old Bush speeches about trading with other countries on youtube and felt weird when he sounded smarter than Trump.
Hopefully the next person can even undo some of the cords Trump has managed to tangle, if not cut completely
Heard things won’t happen the way we expect. He’s in late stage dementia with sleeping etc and the only people around him are those that will use him til end of life. His immediate family sees him only as capital.
I can only hope that no other MAGA person has such weird cult appeal.
ExtremeUnicorn@feddit.org
on 17 Mar 01:24
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People are literay dying because of him, Americans as well as others. Just waiting around seems quite unfair to them.
disregardable@lemmy.zip
on 16 Mar 22:08
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Republicans need to go blue. They’re going to target purple areas for election fraud- deep red states need to go “That’s it, we’re done. You won’t do anything, so we’re changing parties.” They can fix small elections but can’t fix the whole country.
ryannathans@aussie.zone
on 16 Mar 22:31
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Nothing significant is going to change with either of the two parties, both are bought by AIPAC and will continue to do Israel’s bidding as long as this system exists
Thats not going to happen. The small capitalists and other cult members are simply going to stay home on election day if Trump continues to fuck up.
If the dems do manage to materially improve people’s lives, or at least create the perception of helping them, then the dem base will come out to vote.
The only way the dems could fuck this up is if they run on centrist bullshit chasing republican votes, again.
Scubus@sh.itjust.works
on 17 Mar 01:00
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So you’re saying I’ll have to vote centrist for 2028?
We need to trash this plurality voting that keeps us stuck in this quagmire. Any other voting system would be better than continuing to use the worst method that leads us back to the next Trump in 4 to 8 years.
Now that the corpos and billionaires know that they can be openly and brazenly corrupt and greatly accelerate their schemes, we will never see a return to the politics of old where hiding it minimized profit regardless of who the next puppet figurehead is. You cannot un-ring the bell.
With the US’ bonkers electoral system, and abysmal education levels, you’re pretty much cooked.
You have an oligarchy, a captured state, a corporatocracy. Oligarchs tell voters to vote for the leader who will benefit them most.
Research suggests that it doesn’t actually take that many people to convince those oligarchs that another leader will be in their best interests. For example, if 3% of people who regularly buy things from Amazon and visit facebook and use ChatGPT, stopped doing those three things indefinitely by switching to alternatives, that would likely be enough.
iltoroargento@lemmy.sdf.org
on 16 Mar 23:01
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“Everyone’s saying it…”
user_name@lemmy.world
on 16 Mar 22:31
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The way I see the only chance is if Peter Thiel backs a Trump removal sometime after the midterms. In that case we would have Trump out.
On the other hand, the goal would be so that J. D. “Couchfucker” Vance can serve the remainder of his term and then still be constitutionally eligible for two terms, leading to a decade of President J. D. “I Also Fucked Erika Kirk Because I Actually Hate My Wife Who Isn’t White And Isn’t Christian” Vance 🫡🇺🇸🛋️💦✝️🙏
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works
on 16 Mar 23:18
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Send a message to the Trisolarians.
All hails our alien overlords!
ExtremeUnicorn@feddit.org
on 17 Mar 01:20
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Do they have a phone number or email? At this point, I’d like some outside help.
RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world
on 16 Mar 23:21
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In November he’s going to try and steel the election, if we effective block that, his days are numbered, so get organized locally.
Sorry lone wolves, you had your shot and and all your incoherent takes achieved was a poll boost for him.
backalleycoyote@lemmy.today
on 17 Mar 00:59
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Dude helmed one of the biggest child sex trafficking rings in history, whipped his loyalists into a coup attempt with false claims of “stolen election”, suffered no consequences for that, came back promising revenge, pardoned his convicted loyalists, turned them into a private army that has been given carte blanche to murder peaceful opposition, is operating death camps, has kidnapped and murdered the leaders of foreign countries with impunity, routinely ignores those in his own party and Supreme Court when they occasionally oppose him, is threatening all sorts of voter suppression (up to cancelling elections), defies the Constitution by calling for a third term, is backed by a cabal of the most wealthy and powerful individuals in the nation who are also clients of his child sex trafficking ring, is beloved by the nation’s police forces, has seized total control of the military, and has already ignored every check and balance that exists because he can. You can flip the entire Congress blue but unless they find someone who can physically extricate him and his cronies from their positions, he can ignore every impeachment, court order, and protest if he says “nah, I’m staying”. You really think his backers have worked this hard to gain control just to lose it in two years to the will of the people, the people they know would have a helluva time matching them blow for blow to force his removal?
Don’t not vote, but don’t be so assured winning at the polls translates into the first step of over-throwing the regime. I mean, what are you going to do if voters say “time for you to go” and his response is “fuck you, make me”?
RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world
on 17 Mar 01:44
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My point is that in November he will try shenanigans and people will need to take to the streets to enforce the results of the election.
If he fails to steel the elections in November his days will be numbered.
The outcome of the elections is less important than the willingness of people to defend them, when he sends in the FBI to steel uncounted ballotboxes in purple districts.
backalleycoyote@lemmy.today
on 17 Mar 02:05
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And my point is that regardless of whether he successfully steals them, suppresses them, intimidates voters, even if opposition wins big, without teeth to back up any action they take against him (like impeachment), he’s in a position of power that he needs to keep himself and all of his cronies out of prison. A win for the opposition, even if the opposition breaks with Democratic leadership and starts coming at him hard, is just delaying the inevitable fight to be rid of him and his regime. The opposition wants to obey the rule of law, and that’s a good standard, but we’re dealing with a person in power that ignores the balance of power, defies the courts, and has the support of law enforcement. He keeps calling our bluff and letting us play by the rules while he breaks or ignores every last one to the applause of his base. How many of his supporters did we see lusting for a Putin-style strongman that puts on the facade of elections and democracy but would never concede to the will of the people? They’ve found their dude and will fight just as hard to keep him in power at the expense of democracy as he will. People need to be willing to defend more than the right to vote, they need to be willing to take action when voting occurs but the results are ignored.
“I mean, what are you going to do if voters say “time for you to go” and his response is “fuck you, make me”?”
We sic the National Guard on his ass, remove him via a competent military coup, and ensure the actually democratically elected candidate gets in office, while showing that new candidate what happens if they attempt to pull that same bullshit.
Vote enough non-Republicans into Congress, impeach, and convict?
Wait for whatever is turning his skin purple to take its course?
etchinghillside@reddthat.com
on 17 Mar 00:48
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Kind of had 4 years to get that shit figure out and still fumbled.
Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works
on 17 Mar 08:34
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4? Closer to 200
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
on 17 Mar 12:55
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Yeah, and Dem voters are pissed as Hell about it. If we hand them the House and Senate in November, and Schmuck & Jeffries continue with their MAGA comedy act, then we’ll be forced to take matters into our own hands, and when that happens, any treasonous Democrats like them will go down right along with the MAGAs.
People yes, but also the system is extremely fucked up and stacked against people. If you are unlucky to be born in bumfuck Alabama, you’ll grow up with your asshole priest telling you lies, your TV / Radio telling you lies, your patents telling you lies because they too were lied to and your school being underfunded and shitty.
It’s a vicious cycle that we allowed to get to a point of no return and it is not easy for somone to get out of it.
And this is by design, the elites used religion and propaganda to brainwash a huge swath of people.
I honestly think even they are surprised how well they did, because they were afraid they went too far when Trump got into office the first time.
They thought they had pushed their luck and now a fully open conman rapists was the leader of their party.
But, the brainwashing was too strong and complete, the cult members are literally cheering him on as he’s killing people.
I get that and I could see that as an excuse maybe 10-15 years ago, but my thinking is that in the age of regular internet availability, nation-wide, there is less of an excuse to be ignorant and it’s more of a choice at this point about whether you are informed or not.
It is got you because you are not in their bubble. The tech oligarchy has fully isolated the cult of MAGA.
Cults in the past had to be in a physical compound to keep the lie going, but today you have X, Facebook and FOX News which does not let any outside information in.
And let’s be real, your racist grandpa doesn’t know about lemmy or how to make an account or how to spot news slop.
Again, his highschool education barely thought him evolution, and critical thinking skills were not on the curriculum.
neidu3@sh.itjust.works
on 17 Mar 00:10
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An exceptionally blue midterm this year. Not gonna happen this time around, as it needs a majority far beyond what is achievable in just one midterm election, but the long term clue is to have people willing to hold him accountable, instead of a congress consisting of 50% yes-men.
There’s a lot of justified hate towards the dems, but believing voting for neither serves anyone but the doofus in charge is naive at best
InvalidName2@lemmy.zip
on 17 Mar 00:55
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Cholesterol, perhaps.
crazycraw@crazypeople.online
on 17 Mar 01:06
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I think the old ways are all gone. all the folks saying “just vote!” are optimistic but grossly underestimate the state of compromised U.S. politics at a level never seen before. never will there be another election that he doesn’t taint. and I mean taint.
i think “voting” people into office happens all over the globe with varying degrees of successes and failures and gridlock.
ultra rich pocket the leaders that have a price and remove those that dont.
i vote gate storm. we must form a more perfect union, plus he himself established the precedent that it’s fine and those that do are patriots…
Everyone knows what needs to be done and what should have happened long ago. And not just to Trump, but to the entire oligarchic class in the US and worldwide.
baltakatei@sopuli.xyz
on 17 Mar 02:24
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1/3 of US renters not paying their rent in a coördinated strike for one month would unwind a lot of landlord loans and collapse Wall Street which is where Trump stores his wealth.
Paragone@piefed.social
on 17 Mar 03:15
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This is why relying on “political will” to enforce accountability is incompetent.
You’ll notice that Noem is now facing possible perjury-prosecution, but the in-favor/in-power ones aren’t..
Politically-based “accountability” is accountability-to-power’s-narcissism, only, in the end.
It has to be done automatically, at the system-level.
It had to be automatic that he couldn’t even be eligible for election, instead of “saying sorry after gets shit done, whereas asking permission gets one prevented” kind of thing.
DarkTriad/DarkTetrad people have to be automatically & systematically prevented from authority-roles.
Society-wide.
No “political” alternative prevents the problem anywhere-near so efficiently.
So, to your question “is there anything else anyone can do to get Trump out”, no: it’s too late.
Any attempt at impeaching him, now, would trigger his invoking of The Insurrection Act, & activating total-dictatorship.
Which he is going to do regardless, once his frustration reaches high-enough intensity.
“a penny’s worth of prevention is worth a pound/euro of cure” is still true.
But at-last the lessons of what the Christians call “armageddon”, these next 6-decades, will be significant..
Once the tippingpoint’s crossed, I expect the Regional Consolidation Time to be Trump ditching/ignoring all the rest of the world except for his wars on conquering the Americas. ALL of them. Civil War Part2: confederate reverse-takeover & vengeance .. will only be a sub-plot, not the whole thing.
About 1/2-way through the 7-y cycle, I expect him to be replaced with Musk.
The problem isn’t them: the problem is humankind’s collective-unconscious-mind’s ego-games, its “apocalypse” “proving its ego’s IMPORTANCE”, that “nothing is more god than ego’s TANTRUM/POGROM is!!”.
So, fundamentally, it’s The Great Filter: our underlying toddler-nature breaking the world to “beat god and make god obey!!”.
Trump, Putin, Millei, Farage, Orban, etc, highjacking the world for their exclusive-wealth/oligarchy .. that’s only “makeup”.
The communist-party’s imperialism, in various national variants, is every bit as “fascist” in its DarkTetrad as individual-centered-fascism is.
The fundamental difference between individualism vs collectivism doesn’t make imperialism somehow become not imperialism.
Party-imperialism’s murdered millions.
What’s the difference between how bad well-accomplished-sociopathy of the left is, vs the right?
the well-accomplished-sociopathy’s the same, only the political-left vs political-right is different.
So why ignore the underlying sociopathy??
As ideologues consistently do.
It’s foolish, in my opinion, to think that Putin & Trump are going to remain contradicting: their underlying goal is the same: competitive-nihilism & competitive-narcissism, at EVERYBODY-ELSE’s expense.
But they’re only 2 of many representatives of that “church”.
See the overall-picture, not the only-local view: it’s global, the forces are implacable, & humankind’s positioned to .. not do well, this century.
which would take dimensions of competence, & dimensions of self-conquering, that normals never allow anyone to earn ( far too “outlier” )
So, humankind is “walking the plank”, now.
Other paths were possible..
Does anybody understand that preventing genociding in Palestine would have required about 6+decades of the UN being the only gov’t there, & NO ideology imprinting anybody, not through education, not through prejudice, not through abuse, not through apartheid, not on either side!
& keep holding that, generation after generation, until the prejudices were extingushed-sufficiently.
No other path could have worked.
Making-believing, while accommodating ideological-prejudice’s perpetual self-entrenchment sure as hell didn’t work!
It’s the same in the US.
It takes decades to create a population who can do correct-reasoning, & who is loyal-to/valuing-of it.
It takes only months to eradicate that, replacing it with ideological-prejudice.
The brain-system driving ideological-prejudice is more-primitive, more emotional.
The brain-system driving correct-reasoning & objectivity is the recentest part of the brain, the outer cortex ( top of brain, btw ).
the problem isn’t local: it’s racial. Whole-species.
Humankind’s fighting-off moral-anxiety & correct-reasoning & objectivity by digging-into progr
nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 17 Mar 04:53
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storming the gates would be a pretty stupid idea if i recall correctly
There is a pardon for that unless you’re referring to Babbitt.
Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk
on 17 Mar 05:48
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Being allowed to run again, despite being a felon highlights a glaring gap in the ability of US politics to prevent shit like this from happening.
In the UK some right wing manosphere influencer keeps saying how he’s gonna run for Mayor of London (Ant Middleton).
People are gleefully pointing out that his convictions for assaulting a police officer and tax evasion bar him from the role.
schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de
on 17 Mar 09:21
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Excluding people from running for office because of criminal conviction provides an incentive for authoritarians in power to prosecute their political opponents, so it’s a question that definitely has two sides. :/
Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk
on 17 Mar 09:35
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And this is where ensuring total independence of the judiciary comes in.
Its insane to me that the president can pick a Supreme Court judge.
schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de
on 17 Mar 11:06
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Who else should pick judges except for another branch of government?
Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk
on 17 Mar 16:28
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For Supreme Court justices the selection process is slightly different in that the Minister of Justice convenes the selection panel (constitution is defined in law)
1.the President of the UKSC, who will be the chair of the selection commission;
2.a senior UK judge (who is not a UKSC Justice) nominated by the President of the UKSC;
3.a member of the Judicial Appointments Commission for England & Wales;
4.a member of the Judicial Appointments Board for Scotland; and
5.a member of the Northern Ireland Judicial Appointments Commission.
Members of the JAC are senior civil servants and by law must remain politically neutral.
Whilst the Civil Service oversees selection, politicians are kept out of it. Individuals apply for the advertised roles, there are no political nominations.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
on 17 Mar 12:48
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He can’t, he can only nominate them. Then the Senate, a separate branch of government, investigates, and approves them. It doesn’t have to be a rubber stamp, and in the past it often hasn’t been.
Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk
on 17 Mar 16:31
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Interesting, but that is still very political. The judges are effectively being selected by people who will do what Trump tells them to
It wouldn’t be so bad if our government weren’t absolutely ratfucked by the two party FPTP system. There’s no incentive to not pick an extremist who aligns with your political ideology if your political party holds the majority of government offices.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
on 17 Mar 17:24
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The government is an inherently political system, you can’t avoid that. The Founding Fathers tried to split the approval responsibility (for many offices) between two branches, to avoid these issues. They were counting on the voters and the integrity of the members to keep things within reason, and it was a reasonably successful system for a long time.
The problem is that it relies on the good faith of the people managing it, and they Founding Fathers never anticipated that our country would be taken over be an international cabal of Sociopathic Oligarch pedophiles and traitors, who would exploit our nation’s honor system.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
on 17 Mar 12:46
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Exactly. By the same reasoning, there is no reason to bar felons from voting, or even incarcerated citizens. Prisoners have as much right to government representation as anyone else.
Voting is a basic right in this nation, and it should not be removed for ANY reason. We should be automatically registered to vote at birth, with the registration automatically validating on your 18th birthday. You shouldn’t have to register, declare a party, or prove your identity. If you are an American citizen, you can vote, period.
schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de
on 17 Mar 12:58
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prove your identity. If you are an American citizen
how do you verify someone is a citizen if you don’t make them prove their identity?
I live in an EU country and absolutely do have to prove my identity when I vote. I do not have to “register to vote”, or more precisely, I’m already required to register my residence with the government, which doubles as voter registration (the government knows my DOB and citizenship, so knows whether I meet those criteria). Getting disenfranchised for criminal convictions is a thing here, but only very rarely and AFAIK only when specifically sentenced to it.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
on 17 Mar 13:05
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Basically, it’s like you, it’s proved by your residence. That way people can’t vote twice. It used to be that you only had to show up with a utility bill in your name, at your address, and that was enough ID, and that worked just fine for decades. They would check you off their list, you’d vote, and go about your day.
With some luck diabeties or aneurysm. He looks ripe for it.
jenesaisquoi@feddit.org
on 17 Mar 09:26
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Having a test before being allowed to vote. Nothing fancy, just yes/no questions like “is water a liquid”, “is the USA in America”, “is B the fifth letter of the alphabet”, things like that, which any adult regardless of education level could answer correctly. This would filter out the maga portion of the republican voters and solve the problem.
GameOverFlow@lemmy.zip
on 17 Mar 10:32
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Is the earth flat?
jenesaisquoi@feddit.org
on 17 Mar 11:13
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Exactly.
Maga voters would be so angry with us right now. If they could read.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
on 17 Mar 12:40
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So, a literacy test, which was found to be a basic discriminatory tactic during the Civil Rights era, and you want to bring it back? But it’s okay because it’s the people that YOU hate, instead of the people THEY hate.
We don’t save Democracy by committing the same crimes that they do. Nobody hates MAGA more than I do, but that’s not the way to purge them.
Did you miss the portion that said “any adult regardless of education can answer correctly”?
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
on 17 Mar 15:45
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That’s what they said about the Literacy Tests, too. Who decides the level of education required, and what “correctly” means? There’s a LOT of room to abuse this strategy, which is exactly why is was made illegal.
We aren’t going back to literacy tests. Move on.
LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz
on 17 Mar 13:21
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Yeah… we did that. The tests were intentionally misleading, where the answer could be either of two options. The tests were only given to “certain people” and no matter what option they picked, it could be argued it was wrong.
The solution is making it EASIER to vote, not harder. Encourage people to participate and educate them. Every time you make it harder to vote, it only tips the scales to the establishment and conservatives.
if usa was a democracy and people had any power, maybe…?
might as well try oust putin out of power, maybe the response is still less violent than it would be in russia, but you’ll have as much success. Though with enough people demanding something, change happens or steps toward change start to happen, but way america is you need really thorough rebuilding of your entire political system for things to get better.
But as quick patch one thing that comes to my mind is abandoning both sides of your oneparty system and starting a third pary, but that is just temporary because eventually it will be either taken down or corrupted, but it might give you at least something without having to resort to more violent measures.
Crazyslinkz@lemmy.world
on 17 Mar 10:31
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Edit: to clarify nonviolent protests, at least 3.5% of the population.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
on 17 Mar 12:36
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It’s been long established that a small percentage can lead to a “Tipping Point” and cause a trend that can grow and take over. People like Malcolm Gladwell and Mark Penn have written excellent books about the concept. This article is interesting because it is directly ties the idea to non-violent protests.
People have been watching the No Kings protests, for exactly this reason. With a population of 335 million, 3.5% is about 12 million people, and the No Kings protests have been drawing around 8 million, and will probably draw more in the future. Add to that all the sympathetic protesters at home, and we have to be at that 3.5% goal, and probably beyond it.
I’m one of those homebound protesters. I’m NEVER going to go to a protest, but that doesn’t mean I’m not as militant as they are. At my age, I’d be a liability at a protest, but I can work my keyboard, and spread sourced news and anti-MAGA propaganda in equal measure. Thats my DAILY contribution to the fight, and it’s just as important as showing up to monthly or quarterly protests.
Add people like me to the No Kings protesters, and we are certainly beyond the 3.5% required to cause a tipping point, and it really feels like it is happening. They are losing nearly every court case, including tariffs, MAHA, and more. What little support there was for this war has fully collapsed. He has broken every campaign promise to people who LOVE to repeat “Promises Made, Promises Kept.” Today, EVERY SINGLE MAGA knows that’s not true at all.
Nah, I’m no optimist. You’ve just given up too early.
DupaCycki@lemmy.world
on 17 Mar 13:09
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Not necessarily given up. I just don’t think this entire facade called democracy will solve anything. I’m entirely open to other solutions, like the ones you suggested.
Though it should also be noted I don’t live in the USA, so I won’t be standing side by side with you guys. Not physically anyway.
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world
on 17 Mar 13:16
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Vote anyway. If we can’t organize to vote our credibility to strike doesn’t exist
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works
on 17 Mar 14:18
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You’re right, votes havent mattered probably since computerized voting machines have existed.
I guess it should be noted as well…I don’t live in the USA and am not American. What are the odds we’re all discussing America as foreigners? That would be too crazy, even for this timeline. All the best.
The Orange pedophile already executed a coup to not give up the power on his first term… expecting he would give up power willingly now is just “ignorant and proud of it”
Man_kind@sh.itjust.works
on 17 Mar 14:41
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Yes. Maga gets tremendous power from 2 main sources. 1. Money. 2. Social media, and also religion, but not much you can do about that.
So, like Kimmel situation, disney had profit in firing him, once peiple boycotted, it did not, so had to bring him back.
You need to make siding with trump non-profitable.
That means, you, an individual, even if you think your choices dont matter, you need to boycott every company that supports trump, no matter how hard it hurts you. Now, it does t need to be a complete boycott. But as much as possible. For example, there are suitable replacements for chrome, and google search. But not really for YouTube. You don’t need the stock for these companies to be zero. You just need the projections to be significantly negative.
This is especially important for the social media maga controls.
They are using it to brainwash others. Not you. They know you cant be persuaded to become maga. So they let you think it is free, and subtly control what you’re allowed to see, and they corrupt young people, spread lies, teach to hate women, etc… they wont show the ones they are brainwashing all the truths you know about maga.
They have this power because everyone continues to use their platforms. So number one thing is to stop using meta, twitter, and tiktok, no matter how much you love those. Force people to use signal if they want to contact you, not WhatsApp.
Organize irl, whatever local movement you align with that fits into being pro democracy and freedom and equality for all.
When people organize, they can donate, and fund. This lets you go and protest on congress’ front lawn. You can have buses, trains, free food, things people need to come and go, and create a sustained peaceful protest. And MAGA will see that. The administration will be forced to call them paid actors. So be vocal. Get pro democracy flags for your car. Put them up in your homes. Maga can control what the brainwashed see on social media, but not irl. So you need to be vocal irl. Social media makes everyone think all the world agrees with them.
Do all of those things, and trump will lose tremendous power.
Even if you act alone. Make the sacrifice. Show by example, and remember those videos of one man dancing alone, and then another joins and another, and once people see the movement they join in. Start the wave.
yes, a General Strike… if the people of the USA stop working for a week, that would be enough to cripple the Orange pedophile supporters
In the meantime, you can do very easy stuff like deleting your Meta (Facebook, Instagram, etc), Google, Xitter and Amazon accounts… but that seems like too much to ask of the American people… better descend further into fascism and drag the world down than stop using X
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
on 17 Mar 16:39
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if the people of the USA stop working for a week, that would be enough to cripple the Orange pedophile supporters
They would just call it a terrorist attack from antifa. Americans are terrified of an uprising from black people, it’s why they all have 12 guns.
Half of the USA already have internet id in some form or another… also, I am not in Europe
Canonical_Warlock@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 18 Mar 00:33
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A general strike would be effective but it will never happen because there is no safety net. For most people, participating in a general strike would mean starving. Most people in the US live paycheck to paycheck. If they don’t work then they don’t get paid then they don’t get to eat and likely wind up evicted when they can’t recover from the missed pay. Our oligarchs have worked very hard to build a system where a general strike is functionally impossible.
Holy shit, this doesn’t work. It’s 2026. You cannot get the runway you need to ever make this happen. None of you even bothered to create the runway. You handed the runways over to the people you want to protest.
The very last thing you should be doing is deleting any of that. You need to be creating multiple accts. Building groups. Building hype. Spreading information and stopping theirs. You have no business ever suggesting a general strike until you solve how to control the messaging.
General strike is maximum effort. Online action is much lower effort. If you can not find success at lower effort activities, you’ll never get success at higher effort. You don’t walk into a marathons without running 5km just because you have big feelings. Need to work up to it.
Several. But yes. Breaking Diet and Zero coke dispensors at locations in DC and Palm beach would help too.
Rivalarrival@lemmy.today
on 17 Mar 17:50
nextcollapse
Yes. And I am being serious.
When JD Vance has a Congress that will back him (which he will have in 10 months), he, and a majority of the Cabinet, can invoke Section 4 of the 25th amendment. He can declare the President incapable of performing his duties, and step up to the plate. Congress then has the opportunity to decide whether to support his coup, or reinstate Trump to the presidency.
To be successful, he will have to immediately blame Trump for attempting to block the midterm elections, and appoint a special prosecutor to look into the full scope of Trump’s numerous, unadjudicated crimes.
For (most) of the next 10 months, JD Vance will have to continue to appear to support Trump’s presidency, and Trump will have to continue his own Trumpiness.
Hell also have to pull off the VP debate and appear somewhat reasonable for 10 months. While still supporting the administration. It’ll be a balancing act, he can’t be a full on cheerleader and switch at the last second.
UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world
on 17 Mar 17:59
nextcollapse
No
So lets do that
Swaus01@piefed.social
on 17 Mar 22:22
nextcollapse
It’s a long shot/hail mary but you could hope that the CIA will boot him out.
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone
on 18 Mar 00:23
nextcollapse
Not until the US realises the systemic issues supporting the populist despots position. I’ll focus on the two party system below.
If the Democratic Party truly want to improve the USA what they can do is break up. The duopoly can be blown up. They could do it brexit style and just completely flip the board this would inevitably lead to Republican domination but quickly without another major side to fight against their anti-democratic actions will be the only thing to talk about. A bit like how the only thing to do with brexit is ignore it, or talk about it’s costs. This would hurt the USA and democracy would go through a recession.
Another option is to recreate their party structure to only be based between clear democracy sign posts. Agree to support any democratic president that is elected, but in elections they could support their different preferred candidates. Only after an election is resolved do they fall in line behind a democratic winner. In other words be a big tent, formalise the so called ‘caucuses’ underneath the current Party as different and increasingly independent Party’s, welcome in Republican ‘caucuses’ who still believe in democracy and use the Democratic Party as the banner to build out a multi-party system at the federal level.
Its long, complicated, and probably has many flaws, but multi-party coalition Governments seem to be the worlds best chance at holding onto a liberalised and mostly Just system of governance.
So a path towards coalition multi-party democracy is what I’m essentially advocating here. Too many Republicans don’t even understand the benefits of the democratic system so I can’t see many of them have the cojones to blow up their party, they’d happily live under a dictator it seems.
jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world
on 18 Mar 00:28
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US politicians doing their jobs, serving and representing the American people.
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Looks like America (and the rest of the world) has to suffer him at this stage, unless they go full coup de tar mode.
I wonder what the future leaders will look like for Russia, USA and China…
China is the interesting one. Since Deng , it’s been an interesting and varied toss up of goals and actions mixed with pragmatism and technological improvements.
I wish Hu’s reforms went further, the oppression of minorities halted and Xi wasn’t in charge
Mmmm a very interesting one. I guess growing up during the Cultural Revolution after having your high-ranking dad purged makes you hungry lol
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Lol sorry I got Xiaoping confused with Xi Jinping (im sick and my head is blurgh).
I was commenting on Jinping’s focus on power consolidation and breaking the term limit.
But watching China has been very interesting, especially their grip over global critical minerals and how the rest of the world is reacting. It’s been a wild ride for lithium stocks on the ASX lol
Good thing no one has set a precedent for kidnapping or blowing up leaders.
We thought we couldn’t do worse than Bush, but here we are. I’m not holding my breath for the future. I’m expecting 4 years of someone not a total asswipe and then we elect mecha hitler or someone somehow worse.
Oof i was watching old Bush speeches about trading with other countries on youtube and felt weird when he sounded smarter than Trump.
Hopefully the next person can even undo some of the cords Trump has managed to tangle, if not cut completely
Fixing what trump has broken will be a generational project, and nobody will be given the time required.
Sit around and wait. No matter what you think will happen next election he is old and not the image of healthy living.
Such an unsatisfactory way to deal with orange baby tyrant.
Heard things won’t happen the way we expect. He’s in late stage dementia with sleeping etc and the only people around him are those that will use him til end of life. His immediate family sees him only as capital.
I can only hope that no other MAGA person has such weird cult appeal.
People are literay dying because of him, Americans as well as others. Just waiting around seems quite unfair to them.
Republicans need to go blue. They’re going to target purple areas for election fraud- deep red states need to go “That’s it, we’re done. You won’t do anything, so we’re changing parties.” They can fix small elections but can’t fix the whole country.
Nothing significant is going to change with either of the two parties, both are bought by AIPAC and will continue to do Israel’s bidding as long as this system exists
Thats not going to happen. The small capitalists and other cult members are simply going to stay home on election day if Trump continues to fuck up.
If the dems do manage to materially improve people’s lives, or at least create the perception of helping them, then the dem base will come out to vote.
The only way the dems could fuck this up is if they run on centrist bullshit chasing republican votes, again.
So you’re saying I’ll have to vote centrist for 2028?
If the DNC gets their way, it’ll be your only option. Then in 2030 we lose congress again and 2032 we get another Trump.
We need to trash this plurality voting that keeps us stuck in this quagmire. Any other voting system would be better than continuing to use the worst method that leads us back to the next Trump in 4 to 8 years.
I wish I had any confidence that they learned their lesson after trying that with Kamala. However, I have none.
Now that the corpos and billionaires know that they can be openly and brazenly corrupt and greatly accelerate their schemes, we will never see a return to the politics of old where hiding it minimized profit regardless of who the next puppet figurehead is. You cannot un-ring the bell.
It’s basically this.
With the US’ bonkers electoral system, and abysmal education levels, you’re pretty much cooked.
You have an oligarchy, a captured state, a corporatocracy. Oligarchs tell voters to vote for the leader who will benefit them most.
Research suggests that it doesn’t actually take that many people to convince those oligarchs that another leader will be in their best interests. For example, if 3% of people who regularly buy things from Amazon and visit facebook and use ChatGPT, stopped doing those three things indefinitely by switching to alternatives, that would likely be enough.
However, I just don’t believe that’s achievable.
Fingers crossed…
i am predicting a small civil war during/after the november elections
Wanna bet? That’s the new thing I hear.
Somehow this already happened between the gilded age and the mid-20th century.
Sometimes those people’s necks just start squirting randomly.
We've seen it happen.
“Everyone’s saying it…”
The way I see the only chance is if Peter Thiel backs a Trump removal sometime after the midterms. In that case we would have Trump out.
On the other hand, the goal would be so that J. D. “Couchfucker” Vance can serve the remainder of his term and then still be constitutionally eligible for two terms, leading to a decade of President J. D. “I Also Fucked Erika Kirk Because I Actually Hate My Wife Who Isn’t White And Isn’t Christian” Vance 🫡🇺🇸🛋️💦✝️🙏
Send a message to the Trisolarians.
All hails our alien overlords!
Do they have a phone number or email? At this point, I’d like some outside help.
In November he’s going to try and steel the election, if we effective block that, his days are numbered, so get organized locally.
Sorry lone wolves, you had your shot and and all your incoherent takes achieved was a poll boost for him.
Dude helmed one of the biggest child sex trafficking rings in history, whipped his loyalists into a coup attempt with false claims of “stolen election”, suffered no consequences for that, came back promising revenge, pardoned his convicted loyalists, turned them into a private army that has been given carte blanche to murder peaceful opposition, is operating death camps, has kidnapped and murdered the leaders of foreign countries with impunity, routinely ignores those in his own party and Supreme Court when they occasionally oppose him, is threatening all sorts of voter suppression (up to cancelling elections), defies the Constitution by calling for a third term, is backed by a cabal of the most wealthy and powerful individuals in the nation who are also clients of his child sex trafficking ring, is beloved by the nation’s police forces, has seized total control of the military, and has already ignored every check and balance that exists because he can. You can flip the entire Congress blue but unless they find someone who can physically extricate him and his cronies from their positions, he can ignore every impeachment, court order, and protest if he says “nah, I’m staying”. You really think his backers have worked this hard to gain control just to lose it in two years to the will of the people, the people they know would have a helluva time matching them blow for blow to force his removal?
Don’t not vote, but don’t be so assured winning at the polls translates into the first step of over-throwing the regime. I mean, what are you going to do if voters say “time for you to go” and his response is “fuck you, make me”?
My point is that in November he will try shenanigans and people will need to take to the streets to enforce the results of the election.
If he fails to steel the elections in November his days will be numbered.
The outcome of the elections is less important than the willingness of people to defend them, when he sends in the FBI to steel uncounted ballotboxes in purple districts.
And my point is that regardless of whether he successfully steals them, suppresses them, intimidates voters, even if opposition wins big, without teeth to back up any action they take against him (like impeachment), he’s in a position of power that he needs to keep himself and all of his cronies out of prison. A win for the opposition, even if the opposition breaks with Democratic leadership and starts coming at him hard, is just delaying the inevitable fight to be rid of him and his regime. The opposition wants to obey the rule of law, and that’s a good standard, but we’re dealing with a person in power that ignores the balance of power, defies the courts, and has the support of law enforcement. He keeps calling our bluff and letting us play by the rules while he breaks or ignores every last one to the applause of his base. How many of his supporters did we see lusting for a Putin-style strongman that puts on the facade of elections and democracy but would never concede to the will of the people? They’ve found their dude and will fight just as hard to keep him in power at the expense of democracy as he will. People need to be willing to defend more than the right to vote, they need to be willing to take action when voting occurs but the results are ignored.
“I mean, what are you going to do if voters say “time for you to go” and his response is “fuck you, make me”?”
We sic the National Guard on his ass, remove him via a competent military coup, and ensure the actually democratically elected candidate gets in office, while showing that new candidate what happens if they attempt to pull that same bullshit.
Which alloy do you think he’ll use?
Vote enough non-Republicans into Congress, impeach, and convict? Wait for whatever is turning his skin purple to take its course?
Kind of had 4 years to get that shit figure out and still fumbled.
4? Closer to 200
Yeah, and Dem voters are pissed as Hell about it. If we hand them the House and Senate in November, and Schmuck & Jeffries continue with their MAGA comedy act, then we’ll be forced to take matters into our own hands, and when that happens, any treasonous Democrats like them will go down right along with the MAGAs.
Welcome to democracy & divided, partisan voters.
Vote in better Congresspeople who will vote to remove him from office. The problem is the people. Always has been.
People yes, but also the system is extremely fucked up and stacked against people. If you are unlucky to be born in bumfuck Alabama, you’ll grow up with your asshole priest telling you lies, your TV / Radio telling you lies, your patents telling you lies because they too were lied to and your school being underfunded and shitty.
It’s a vicious cycle that we allowed to get to a point of no return and it is not easy for somone to get out of it.
And this is by design, the elites used religion and propaganda to brainwash a huge swath of people.
I honestly think even they are surprised how well they did, because they were afraid they went too far when Trump got into office the first time.
They thought they had pushed their luck and now a fully open conman rapists was the leader of their party.
But, the brainwashing was too strong and complete, the cult members are literally cheering him on as he’s killing people.
I get that and I could see that as an excuse maybe 10-15 years ago, but my thinking is that in the age of regular internet availability, nation-wide, there is less of an excuse to be ignorant and it’s more of a choice at this point about whether you are informed or not.
It is got you because you are not in their bubble. The tech oligarchy has fully isolated the cult of MAGA.
Cults in the past had to be in a physical compound to keep the lie going, but today you have X, Facebook and FOX News which does not let any outside information in.
And let’s be real, your racist grandpa doesn’t know about lemmy or how to make an account or how to spot news slop.
Again, his highschool education barely thought him evolution, and critical thinking skills were not on the curriculum.
An exceptionally blue midterm this year. Not gonna happen this time around, as it needs a majority far beyond what is achievable in just one midterm election, but the long term clue is to have people willing to hold him accountable, instead of a congress consisting of 50% yes-men.
There’s a lot of justified hate towards the dems, but believing voting for neither serves anyone but the doofus in charge is naive at best
Cholesterol, perhaps.
I think the old ways are all gone. all the folks saying “just vote!” are optimistic but grossly underestimate the state of compromised U.S. politics at a level never seen before. never will there be another election that he doesn’t taint. and I mean taint.
i think “voting” people into office happens all over the globe with varying degrees of successes and failures and gridlock. ultra rich pocket the leaders that have a price and remove those that dont.
i vote gate storm. we must form a more perfect union, plus he himself established the precedent that it’s fine and those that do are patriots…
Everyone knows what needs to be done and what should have happened long ago. And not just to Trump, but to the entire oligarchic class in the US and worldwide.
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He already stormed the gates and frankly, it wasn’t a good look.
Here's a wild and crazy thought...
Win an election. Preferably 2, and preferably by a wide margin.
Feels like we've tried everything short of actually winning.
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1/3 of US renters not paying their rent in a coördinated strike for one month would unwind a lot of landlord loans and collapse Wall Street which is where Trump stores his wealth.
This is why relying on “political will” to enforce accountability is incompetent.
You’ll notice that Noem is now facing possible perjury-prosecution, but the in-favor/in-power ones aren’t..
Politically-based “accountability” is accountability-to-power’s-narcissism, only, in the end.
It has to be done automatically, at the system-level.
It had to be automatic that he couldn’t even be eligible for election, instead of “saying sorry after gets shit done, whereas asking permission gets one prevented” kind of thing.
DarkTriad/DarkTetrad people have to be automatically & systematically prevented from authority-roles.
Society-wide.
No “political” alternative prevents the problem anywhere-near so efficiently.
So, to your question “is there anything else anyone can do to get Trump out”, no: it’s too late.
Any attempt at impeaching him, now, would trigger his invoking of The Insurrection Act, & activating total-dictatorship.
Which he is going to do regardless, once his frustration reaches high-enough intensity.
“a penny’s worth of prevention is worth a pound/euro of cure” is still true.
But at-last the lessons of what the Christians call “armageddon”, these next 6-decades, will be significant..
Once the tippingpoint’s crossed, I expect the Regional Consolidation Time to be Trump ditching/ignoring all the rest of the world except for his wars on conquering the Americas. ALL of them. Civil War Part2: confederate reverse-takeover & vengeance .. will only be a sub-plot, not the whole thing.
About 1/2-way through the 7-y cycle, I expect him to be replaced with Musk.
The problem isn’t them: the problem is humankind’s collective-unconscious-mind’s ego-games, its “apocalypse” “proving its ego’s IMPORTANCE”, that “nothing is more god than ego’s TANTRUM/POGROM is!!”.
So, fundamentally, it’s The Great Filter: our underlying toddler-nature breaking the world to “beat god and make god obey!!”.
Trump, Putin, Millei, Farage, Orban, etc, highjacking the world for their exclusive-wealth/oligarchy .. that’s only “makeup”.
The communist-party’s imperialism, in various national variants, is every bit as “fascist” in its DarkTetrad as individual-centered-fascism is.
The fundamental difference between individualism vs collectivism doesn’t make imperialism somehow become not imperialism.
Party-imperialism’s murdered millions.
What’s the difference between how bad well-accomplished-sociopathy of the left is, vs the right?
the well-accomplished-sociopathy’s the same, only the political-left vs political-right is different.
So why ignore the underlying sociopathy??
As ideologues consistently do.
It’s foolish, in my opinion, to think that Putin & Trump are going to remain contradicting: their underlying goal is the same: competitive-nihilism & competitive-narcissism, at EVERYBODY-ELSE’s expense.
But they’re only 2 of many representatives of that “church”.
See the overall-picture, not the only-local view: it’s global, the forces are implacable, & humankind’s positioned to .. not do well, this century.
Unless someone massively changes humankind’s viability..
which would take dimensions of competence, & dimensions of self-conquering, that normals never allow anyone to earn ( far too “outlier” )
So, humankind is “walking the plank”, now.
Other paths were possible..
Does anybody understand that preventing genociding in Palestine would have required about 6+decades of the UN being the only gov’t there, & NO ideology imprinting anybody, not through education, not through prejudice, not through abuse, not through apartheid, not on either side!
& keep holding that, generation after generation, until the prejudices were extingushed-sufficiently.
No other path could have worked.
Making-believing, while accommodating ideological-prejudice’s perpetual self-entrenchment sure as hell didn’t work!
It’s the same in the US.
It takes decades to create a population who can do correct-reasoning, & who is loyal-to/valuing-of it.
It takes only months to eradicate that, replacing it with ideological-prejudice.
The brain-system driving ideological-prejudice is more-primitive, more emotional.
The brain-system driving correct-reasoning & objectivity is the recentest part of the brain, the outer cortex ( top of brain, btw ).
the problem isn’t local: it’s racial. Whole-species.
Humankind’s fighting-off moral-anxiety & correct-reasoning & objectivity by digging-into progr
storming the gates would be a pretty stupid idea if i recall correctly
There is a pardon for that unless you’re referring to Babbitt.
Being allowed to run again, despite being a felon highlights a glaring gap in the ability of US politics to prevent shit like this from happening.
In the UK some right wing manosphere influencer keeps saying how he’s gonna run for Mayor of London (Ant Middleton).
People are gleefully pointing out that his convictions for assaulting a police officer and tax evasion bar him from the role.
Excluding people from running for office because of criminal conviction provides an incentive for authoritarians in power to prosecute their political opponents, so it’s a question that definitely has two sides. :/
And this is where ensuring total independence of the judiciary comes in.
Its insane to me that the president can pick a Supreme Court judge.
Who else should pick judges except for another branch of government?
This is how we do it in the UK.
www.judiciary.uk/…/jud-appts/
For Supreme Court justices the selection process is slightly different in that the Minister of Justice convenes the selection panel (constitution is defined in law)
1.the President of the UKSC, who will be the chair of the selection commission; 2.a senior UK judge (who is not a UKSC Justice) nominated by the President of the UKSC; 3.a member of the Judicial Appointments Commission for England & Wales; 4.a member of the Judicial Appointments Board for Scotland; and 5.a member of the Northern Ireland Judicial Appointments Commission.
Members of the JAC are senior civil servants and by law must remain politically neutral.
Whilst the Civil Service oversees selection, politicians are kept out of it. Individuals apply for the advertised roles, there are no political nominations.
He can’t, he can only nominate them. Then the Senate, a separate branch of government, investigates, and approves them. It doesn’t have to be a rubber stamp, and in the past it often hasn’t been.
Interesting, but that is still very political. The judges are effectively being selected by people who will do what Trump tells them to
It wouldn’t be so bad if our government weren’t absolutely ratfucked by the two party FPTP system. There’s no incentive to not pick an extremist who aligns with your political ideology if your political party holds the majority of government offices.
The government is an inherently political system, you can’t avoid that. The Founding Fathers tried to split the approval responsibility (for many offices) between two branches, to avoid these issues. They were counting on the voters and the integrity of the members to keep things within reason, and it was a reasonably successful system for a long time.
The problem is that it relies on the good faith of the people managing it, and they Founding Fathers never anticipated that our country would be taken over be an international cabal of Sociopathic Oligarch pedophiles and traitors, who would exploit our nation’s honor system.
Exactly. By the same reasoning, there is no reason to bar felons from voting, or even incarcerated citizens. Prisoners have as much right to government representation as anyone else.
Voting is a basic right in this nation, and it should not be removed for ANY reason. We should be automatically registered to vote at birth, with the registration automatically validating on your 18th birthday. You shouldn’t have to register, declare a party, or prove your identity. If you are an American citizen, you can vote, period.
how do you verify someone is a citizen if you don’t make them prove their identity?
I live in an EU country and absolutely do have to prove my identity when I vote. I do not have to “register to vote”, or more precisely, I’m already required to register my residence with the government, which doubles as voter registration (the government knows my DOB and citizenship, so knows whether I meet those criteria). Getting disenfranchised for criminal convictions is a thing here, but only very rarely and AFAIK only when specifically sentenced to it.
Basically, it’s like you, it’s proved by your residence. That way people can’t vote twice. It used to be that you only had to show up with a utility bill in your name, at your address, and that was enough ID, and that worked just fine for decades. They would check you off their list, you’d vote, and go about your day.
With some luck diabeties or aneurysm. He looks ripe for it.
Having a test before being allowed to vote. Nothing fancy, just yes/no questions like “is water a liquid”, “is the USA in America”, “is B the fifth letter of the alphabet”, things like that, which any adult regardless of education level could answer correctly. This would filter out the maga portion of the republican voters and solve the problem.
Is the earth flat?
Exactly.
Maga voters would be so angry with us right now. If they could read.
People who answer yes get thrown off the edge
So, a literacy test, which was found to be a basic discriminatory tactic during the Civil Rights era, and you want to bring it back? But it’s okay because it’s the people that YOU hate, instead of the people THEY hate.
We don’t save Democracy by committing the same crimes that they do. Nobody hates MAGA more than I do, but that’s not the way to purge them.
Did you miss the portion that said “any adult regardless of education can answer correctly”?
That’s what they said about the Literacy Tests, too. Who decides the level of education required, and what “correctly” means? There’s a LOT of room to abuse this strategy, which is exactly why is was made illegal.
We aren’t going back to literacy tests. Move on.
Yeah… we did that. The tests were intentionally misleading, where the answer could be either of two options. The tests were only given to “certain people” and no matter what option they picked, it could be argued it was wrong.
The solution is making it EASIER to vote, not harder. Encourage people to participate and educate them. Every time you make it harder to vote, it only tips the scales to the establishment and conservatives.
if usa was a democracy and people had any power, maybe…? might as well try oust putin out of power, maybe the response is still less violent than it would be in russia, but you’ll have as much success. Though with enough people demanding something, change happens or steps toward change start to happen, but way america is you need really thorough rebuilding of your entire political system for things to get better.
But as quick patch one thing that comes to my mind is abandoning both sides of your oneparty system and starting a third pary, but that is just temporary because eventually it will be either taken down or corrupted, but it might give you at least something without having to resort to more violent measures.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3.5%25_rule
I suggest this.
Edit: to clarify nonviolent protests, at least 3.5% of the population.
It’s been long established that a small percentage can lead to a “Tipping Point” and cause a trend that can grow and take over. People like Malcolm Gladwell and Mark Penn have written excellent books about the concept. This article is interesting because it is directly ties the idea to non-violent protests.
People have been watching the No Kings protests, for exactly this reason. With a population of 335 million, 3.5% is about 12 million people, and the No Kings protests have been drawing around 8 million, and will probably draw more in the future. Add to that all the sympathetic protesters at home, and we have to be at that 3.5% goal, and probably beyond it.
I’m one of those homebound protesters. I’m NEVER going to go to a protest, but that doesn’t mean I’m not as militant as they are. At my age, I’d be a liability at a protest, but I can work my keyboard, and spread sourced news and anti-MAGA propaganda in equal measure. Thats my DAILY contribution to the fight, and it’s just as important as showing up to monthly or quarterly protests.
Add people like me to the No Kings protesters, and we are certainly beyond the 3.5% required to cause a tipping point, and it really feels like it is happening. They are losing nearly every court case, including tariffs, MAHA, and more. What little support there was for this war has fully collapsed. He has broken every campaign promise to people who LOVE to repeat “Promises Made, Promises Kept.” Today, EVERY SINGLE MAGA knows that’s not true at all.
I don’t even like the no kings protests but lol at adding you to the number cause you post so hard.
Three things: 1. A general strike. 2. Vote them out in the mid-terms this November. 3. Full scale revolution.
Vote? Mid-terms? We’ve got an optimist here.
Nah, I’m no optimist. You’ve just given up too early.
Not necessarily given up. I just don’t think this entire facade called democracy will solve anything. I’m entirely open to other solutions, like the ones you suggested.
Though it should also be noted I don’t live in the USA, so I won’t be standing side by side with you guys. Not physically anyway.
Vote anyway. If we can’t organize to vote our credibility to strike doesn’t exist
You’re right, votes havent mattered probably since computerized voting machines have existed.
But still, do it anyway. You never know.
I guess it should be noted as well…I don’t live in the USA and am not American. What are the odds we’re all discussing America as foreigners? That would be too crazy, even for this timeline. All the best.
The Orange pedophile already executed a coup to not give up the power on his first term… expecting he would give up power willingly now is just “ignorant and proud of it”
Yes. Maga gets tremendous power from 2 main sources. 1. Money. 2. Social media, and also religion, but not much you can do about that.
So, like Kimmel situation, disney had profit in firing him, once peiple boycotted, it did not, so had to bring him back.
You need to make siding with trump non-profitable.
That means, you, an individual, even if you think your choices dont matter, you need to boycott every company that supports trump, no matter how hard it hurts you. Now, it does t need to be a complete boycott. But as much as possible. For example, there are suitable replacements for chrome, and google search. But not really for YouTube. You don’t need the stock for these companies to be zero. You just need the projections to be significantly negative.
This is especially important for the social media maga controls.
They are using it to brainwash others. Not you. They know you cant be persuaded to become maga. So they let you think it is free, and subtly control what you’re allowed to see, and they corrupt young people, spread lies, teach to hate women, etc… they wont show the ones they are brainwashing all the truths you know about maga.
They have this power because everyone continues to use their platforms. So number one thing is to stop using meta, twitter, and tiktok, no matter how much you love those. Force people to use signal if they want to contact you, not WhatsApp.
Organize irl, whatever local movement you align with that fits into being pro democracy and freedom and equality for all.
When people organize, they can donate, and fund. This lets you go and protest on congress’ front lawn. You can have buses, trains, free food, things people need to come and go, and create a sustained peaceful protest. And MAGA will see that. The administration will be forced to call them paid actors. So be vocal. Get pro democracy flags for your car. Put them up in your homes. Maga can control what the brainwashed see on social media, but not irl. So you need to be vocal irl. Social media makes everyone think all the world agrees with them.
Do all of those things, and trump will lose tremendous power.
Even if you act alone. Make the sacrifice. Show by example, and remember those videos of one man dancing alone, and then another joins and another, and once people see the movement they join in. Start the wave.
yes, a General Strike… if the people of the USA stop working for a week, that would be enough to cripple the Orange pedophile supporters
In the meantime, you can do very easy stuff like deleting your Meta (Facebook, Instagram, etc), Google, Xitter and Amazon accounts… but that seems like too much to ask of the American people… better descend further into fascism and drag the world down than stop using X
They would just call it a terrorist attack from antifa. Americans are terrified of an uprising from black people, it’s why they all have 12 guns.
even better
You have to be aware of the fact that those people are a vocal minority.
Man it’s so cute when you people think you know what you’re talking about
Europe is its own path. You guys will have internet id before USA the way you guys are going.
Half of the USA already have internet id in some form or another… also, I am not in Europe
A general strike would be effective but it will never happen because there is no safety net. For most people, participating in a general strike would mean starving. Most people in the US live paycheck to paycheck. If they don’t work then they don’t get paid then they don’t get to eat and likely wind up evicted when they can’t recover from the missed pay. Our oligarchs have worked very hard to build a system where a general strike is functionally impossible.
do you think people all over the world who have held a general strike were all well off and had plenty of savings to hold them through it??
Holy shit, this doesn’t work. It’s 2026. You cannot get the runway you need to ever make this happen. None of you even bothered to create the runway. You handed the runways over to the people you want to protest.
The very last thing you should be doing is deleting any of that. You need to be creating multiple accts. Building groups. Building hype. Spreading information and stopping theirs. You have no business ever suggesting a general strike until you solve how to control the messaging.
General strike is maximum effort. Online action is much lower effort. If you can not find success at lower effort activities, you’ll never get success at higher effort. You don’t walk into a marathons without running 5km just because you have big feelings. Need to work up to it.
Bring back the McRib. Im serious
Are you implying that he would eat one and then suffer a heart attack?
Several. But yes. Breaking Diet and Zero coke dispensors at locations in DC and Palm beach would help too.
Yes. And I am being serious.
When JD Vance has a Congress that will back him (which he will have in 10 months), he, and a majority of the Cabinet, can invoke Section 4 of the 25th amendment. He can declare the President incapable of performing his duties, and step up to the plate. Congress then has the opportunity to decide whether to support his coup, or reinstate Trump to the presidency.
To be successful, he will have to immediately blame Trump for attempting to block the midterm elections, and appoint a special prosecutor to look into the full scope of Trump’s numerous, unadjudicated crimes.
For (most) of the next 10 months, JD Vance will have to continue to appear to support Trump’s presidency, and Trump will have to continue his own Trumpiness.
Hell also have to pull off the VP debate and appear somewhat reasonable for 10 months. While still supporting the administration. It’ll be a balancing act, he can’t be a full on cheerleader and switch at the last second.
No
So lets do that
It’s a long shot/hail mary but you could hope that the CIA will boot him out.
Not until the US realises the systemic issues supporting the populist despots position. I’ll focus on the two party system below.
If the Democratic Party truly want to improve the USA what they can do is break up. The duopoly can be blown up. They could do it brexit style and just completely flip the board this would inevitably lead to Republican domination but quickly without another major side to fight against their anti-democratic actions will be the only thing to talk about. A bit like how the only thing to do with brexit is ignore it, or talk about it’s costs. This would hurt the USA and democracy would go through a recession.
Another option is to recreate their party structure to only be based between clear democracy sign posts. Agree to support any democratic president that is elected, but in elections they could support their different preferred candidates. Only after an election is resolved do they fall in line behind a democratic winner. In other words be a big tent, formalise the so called ‘caucuses’ underneath the current Party as different and increasingly independent Party’s, welcome in Republican ‘caucuses’ who still believe in democracy and use the Democratic Party as the banner to build out a multi-party system at the federal level.
Its long, complicated, and probably has many flaws, but multi-party coalition Governments seem to be the worlds best chance at holding onto a liberalised and mostly Just system of governance.
So a path towards coalition multi-party democracy is what I’m essentially advocating here. Too many Republicans don’t even understand the benefits of the democratic system so I can’t see many of them have the cojones to blow up their party, they’d happily live under a dictator it seems.
US politicians doing their jobs, serving and representing the American people.