Sooo... This is happening on Imgur
from TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world to nostupidquestions@lemmy.world on 11 Dec 06:47
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from TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world to nostupidquestions@lemmy.world on 11 Dec 06:47
https://lemmy.world/post/40035025
I’m all for it, but what kicked it off?
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I wonder if it’s the rise of nazism…?
Let’s call a spade a spade. It’s Nazism.
I don’t know, but I’m gonna take a wild guess and say some Nazis pissed some people off… As they do.
It is always okay to punch Nazis. You don’t need a reason. (serious answer though: I have no idea what kicked it off, my comment still stands though, it’s always okay to punch Nazis.)
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Somebody was banned for posting the GIF of the Nazi Guy getting knocked out (you know the one).
The community is not having it.
Every time I walk past that stretch near Pike and 3rd in Seattle, right over that bit of concrete where the nazi got laid the fuck out, I punch the air. Every time.
Damn, that’s where it happened?? I fucking bike right past that!!
bet.com/…/seattle-man-records-video-of-a-neo-nazi…
Yeah, check the tiles, this is just right outside of one of the entrances to Westlake TC.
Hell yeah, awesome 😂
I fucken love that GIF
Have you seen this one?
old.reddit.com/…/former_astronaut_buzz_aldrin_pun…
Not as satisfying as a nazi, but still very good
I love that one.
Not the person you responded to but i love that one too!! Thanks for posting it 🙂
Sadly the punch didn’t knock any sense in him as Bart Sibrel still believe space is fake, none of the moon landings happened and the earth is flat.
Woah, wearing the armband and everything. And apparently he was harassing some guy? No wonder he got punched right in the face.
That site needs to pick a font and stick with it.
This story just gets better.
I wouldnt be functioning at that level holy hell
Anyone eating that much THC has been working their way up to that for a long time.
I remember a post on Reddit of someone taking around 1000 mg and going to the bath, then realizing their mistake and being stuck there for half a day and nearly having to call an ambulance.
I’m ready to sleep half the time at 5mg. Holy shit.
Lol, I would wake up some time in February with an apetite sufficient to cause a global famine.
Someone needs to make a monument, like that woman hitting the nazi with her purse. Maybe, until then, some graffiti to make the location to people passing by? Or maybe some other cheap temporary display.
That video always makes me uncomfortable because I dont know the actual context. Maybe he was in Halloween fancy dress?
Yes fuck nazis, but I dont know in my bones the person deserved it.
Yeah, I think you should cosplay as a nazi the same way we wear fake guns. You better make it abundantly clear that it’s a toy/costume.
Someone I know cosplays as a Nazi. He doesn't walk around the streets wraring an armband. He goes in full military gear, riding around on an original WWII german bike with sidecar at WWII historic events. You know, like a cosplayer.
If true, then the person you know is a loser and someone should beat the shit out of them.
It doesn’t matter how authentic it is if you’re cosplaying as a fucking Nazi.
I mean, I think historical reenactments are a valid exception to the rule.
Is that “cosplay” though? Certainly not what I would call it.
It depends on how specific you want to get with the term, but from Wikipedia:
Nothing says playful like dressing up as soldiers notorious for carrying out one of the largest genocide campaigns in modern history 👍
8 years or so and kids will be wearing maga hats for Halloween costumes.
Do it yourself then tough guy
Literally know nothing about the person, that doesn’t make them a Nazi lol
People like you are the reason why the US is a fascist nation now. Giving literal Nazis the benefit of the doubt over and over because they say that “it’s just a joke” or whatever.
YOU NEVER COSPLAY AS A NAZI…
Correction in regards to 2: When you’re in the “are we the baddies”-sketch it’s OK. In fact, I’d say David Mitchell has a free pass, as he always manages to portray the insecurity required to become a nazi.
Mr Chaplain also does a great job with it
I think it more reminds me how easily influenced we can be. “Go find out” is great, but its not possible to research everything you see. Even if I did I’d only find other people talking about the video and would have no real way of discerning who actually knows what theyre talking about and who’s just making credible sounding shit up.
Do you guys not feel that worry somewhere in your mind when you see things like this?
I mean, it’s not like me enjoying the video is going to affect the guy who got punched. I think it’s good that as a society we support videos that appear to show Nazi cosplayers being punched and don’t give them the benefit of the doubt. If I were actually there IRL and able to affect the outcome, I would also be able to ask for the necessary information to determine what to do.
Unless you’re cosplaying a dead Nazi
Fun fact I have a swedish tankers trench coat from 1940 and a Swiss helmet from 1942 when I wear them together it basically looks like legally distinct werhmacht. I can pull the samething with an American armor school long coat and a Yugoslav helmet for the Soviet equivalent.
It’s technically not Nazi apparel. It annoys my friends though.
Kinda weird dude…
Well aware but kitbashed great value brand versions of historical uniforms is just kinda a weird side effect of me collecting military surplus and military antiques.
Also, in the one scenario where I would find dressing up as a nazi acceptable, which is if they’re an actor for a movie/show/play that requires nazi characters, they are not going to just put an armband on their everyday modern clothing.
They’ll wear a proper reconstruction of an actual nazi uniform, and they’re not going to just walk around in that costume, they’re going to be on or around a set, which also gives any possible passerbys the context clues needed to understand that they’re just an actor, thus saving themselves from being punched.
So we’re not allowed to make movies that show the horrific history of Nazi Germany?
You’re allowed, but surely you’d be aware enough not to walk in your costume outside the set. The same goes for theatre or anything. An actor who thinks it’s a good idea to walk outside in a nazi costume has it coming, and that’s a good thing.
Don’t even engage with such a bullshit attempt at deflecting. Look, they’ve already got you talking about a bullshit hypothetical that they literally just made up whole cloth
There’s no deflecting, a stupid statement was made and the stupidity of it is being demonstrated.
The number of people willing to provide cover, and give the benefit of the doubt to people dressing as, and behaving like literal Nazis is too damn high. I’m seeing it everywhere on here lately.
“I don’t know anything about the thing you guys are talking about, but what if he was dressed like that because he’s an actor in a movie?”
Really?
Oh, I’m not defending a specific instance. I’m merely pointing out that there does exist a time and place where people should be allowed to dress as despicable characters from history
lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/18212399
Fancy dress? That’s a stretch. Usually in fancy dress you’re imitating someone. Who is he meant to be? Just a generic Nazi.
Yeah, his hand coming up in a way that could be “this isn’t what you think” doesn’t help. The description makes the situation sound very different though and there’s not much of an excuse for the armband right now. But yeah, not a fan of the gif now I’ve seen it
It’s a really old video, from like 8 years ago I think. But a timeless classic.
this is clipped. in a longer version he’s talking shit a second before he says “wait hold on now”
tenor.com/…/punch-nazis-punch-nazi-gif-4407514585…
Oh yeah, I can get behind this gif a lot more
Halloween fancy dress?
Dude… give me a break.
Or a movie prop. Or a weird stag night. Or a mentally ill person unaware of the severity of the joke. Or theres a gunman behind the camera making him put the armband on. Or digitally altered before release. Or the list goes on.
What you think you see “Nazi scum punished”
What you actually saw “man gets punched”
Im lowkey shook fr how easily #2 becomes #1. Again, I’d like to point out I’m all for nazis getting fucked up.
If it is a movie prop than the person stays on the lot. There is no stag night justification, mental illness ok…
But you are reaching.
There are certain things you never choose to do. Pretending to be be a Nazi is one of them.
So youre happy that you know based on a 2 second gif and it doesn’t even slightly worry you how easy it is? Maybe it was cut to only show the good bit, but maybe its been cut to rob you of any context.
We have the ability to make anything look like anything, and we’re cheering on violence based on a momentary flash of bad-guy logo, while being the same species that had literal witch- finders like a few generations ago.
I’m more worried now, because instead of seeing the point I’m trying to make people seem to be assuming I’m defending nazis.
You are normalizing them by defending a guy who chose to dress as one in public.
Because you are you fucking moron
Listen it took 4 hours and 70 odd down arrows before anyone provided any actual information, and you people are still piling on.
Minimum 70 people. I dont have enough of a metaphysical language set to get the original point across, but there are lessons to be learned here for all of us.
I fully believe that you are antifascist in sentiment. I also see that you are asking people to show some skepticism about media that is obscure in origin and used to evoke strong feelings.
I was a media literacy activist for decades and this was one of the basic points, that framing can reverse the meaning of an image or video or even story. So you are essentially just asking people to show a little media literacy, which is laudable.
Your manner of argument, in a highly charged subject, is tone deaf, which is what seems to have triggered the downvotes. Righteousness is druglike, the veracity of the recorded action is immaterial, and we all need the narrative that punching nazis is normal. Plus, actual nazi propaganda techniques include sowing doubt about their existence, making false equivalencies, minimizing their transgressions, etc., and the tone deaf manner made it look like you were doing that.
Dude come on. Context alone.
Fuck off, Nazi sympathiser. You’re literally inventing reasons to justify proudly wearing the symbol of hate and genocide.
Asking for nuanced is not sympathizing with them.
Did you just really ignore monuments comment two above?
I guess we know where your sympathies land
The one that was posted a clear hour after? Im not a time traveller man
The sources for this video indicate the person wearing the armband:
Source 1
Source 2
For at least an hour at any point leading up to this, the person wearing the armband could have taken it off and stopped interacting with others. To my knowledge, the person who was punched has never spoken to media to explain why they were dressed as such, despite the massive internet fame of the video.
Do you still feel uncomfortable? Do you know in your bones if the person deserved it?
In this specific case im happy enough thanks for that. Thats actually cheered me up a little.
I’m not sure if I’ll ever truly get there, think I’ll be a little more comfortable joining the mob without context next time. This is the most consistent engagement I’ve ever had on this site and I think ive learned a thing or two here.
Well, don’t join the mob blindly. Do your own research. The above information was gathered from one internet search using the available context clues from this post.
It did not take very long and was easy.
Bait used to be believable SMH my head…
Consider:
Someone is getting knocked the F out on camera.
There is a crowd of people
No one is stopping or diffusing the situation
No one is stopping over the check on the fallen
Then calculate it appears to be a guy wearing a nazi arm band
then consider that it would be the shittiest idea for a halloween costume south of blackface and even wearing nazi garb would likely get you a rightful ass-kicking.
There’s no math there that makes that even slightly questionable.
I don’t know the one
@tanisnikana@lemmy.world was so kind to link the video for us who don’t know.
lemmy.world/comment/20957500
wow never seen that.
I know its an unpopular opinion, but I don’t agree with punching Nazis. It makes them look like a victim, and violence never works.
I am proud though of the movement against a Nazi resurgence though. The youth deserve more credit than they get for standing up to fascism.
All Nazis deserve to get punched. It makes it look like there’s consequences to their moronic beliefs.
‘Liberals are such pussies’
No wonder. Some rich guy must have got very upset. Strange though, plenty of people get punched all the time, and there are plenty more GIFs people getting punched. Banning specifically the Nazi guy getting punched isn’t good PR I think…
gill o’ teens
Imgurians are an odd bunch but I’m glad they’re anti Nazi.
Yeah, best politics of any centralised social media by a long shot.
I know it is, technically. I just never group Imgur into social media. Its always been just an image host in my mind.
When I last used Imgur about ten years ago, they communicated exclusively in gifs and meme phrases. It’s a bit odd.
But, when those browsing /new on Imgur had a mini-uprising and upvoted just anything for a day, weirdest and most outlandish stuff actually made it to the front page. That was the most fun I’ve ever had on a social-media site.
You mean Charlie Kirk getting shot in the neck?
That was funny too, but no they’re talking about this.
a lot of people, regardless of what they think of charlie kirk, got traumatized because it is very graphic. i think some people encouraged playing tetris as a way to get your mind off that video. is it insensitive to tell people to play tetris after watching that graphic video?
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7828932/
Sure, but zoom out. I think the vast majority of people watched it over-and-over in sheer glee.
And later slept much better, knowing that a horrible person spreading hate was no longer
“zoom out”?
Yeah and the community does not understand what it means to protect your audience from certain content. Violence is violence. At this point it does not matter who is who. But the community just had too much lead in the water and is unable to form their own thoughts, thus just follow the other sheep.
You’d be the first to cry when Imgur had to shut down because of problematic content on it. And please, drink less of that tap water.
No, I don’t go on imgur. And uh are you literally going for a doctor strangelove insult there?
It just amazes me how to doing the Nazi salute, uniforms and speech’s are entirely okay now. However, being against it gets you banned.
The world has gone a full circle and we are back to the days were fascism, hatred and all that is okay. Unfortunately.
we need socialism. we need to organize a lot more than ever. we need to be revolutionary optimists, and NOT give in to counterrevolutionary doom and gloom and defeatism. seriously!
The one that gets its tooth knocked out?
Man I love that clip, you can live vicariously through it for a second.
imgbox is the way to go
What’s going on there?
The top right picture needs “HH” added to it. It’s what people use on license plates. Used to be banned in Germany, but I saw one yesterday so I think My Little Nazi has unbanned it.
It’s the city-code for Hamburg “Hansestadt Hamburg -> HH”.
Don’t even try with the smooth brains bro these people are not ready to be unplugged.
Are you suggesting that 88, which literally stands for HH isn’t a thing?
No, when did they do that?
Since at least 2006, possibly earlier.
You realize you are the reason that the “r” word is back right? Remember when your ilk thought the “ok” symbol was a Nazi symbol? Please just get it over with and become neighbors with Tarantino permanently.
The local codes are FR, MüL and Lö. This guy’s licence plate was FR HH and then the number.
I’d assumed y’all would be smart enough to figure out I didn’t mean the first two letters but I suppose I was wrong.
Especially funny because hamburg is a pretty leftist city
should’ve been “hb” (stands for hamburg). seriously!
Already taken by Hansestadt Bremen
maybe “HSH” (Hansestadt Hamburg)?
The plates are limited to 2 letters only for the state/province. The reason Bremen, Hamburg and Lübeck have their own province code is due to their provincial level city status retained from the middle ages.
Nope. I mean, yes, it is, but the one I saw yesterday had a Freiburg code (FR) and then HH.
Wild. I saw a car here in California just the other day with an odd looking plate on some old dude’s hotrod that had a little “HH” off to one side that, here, just means it’s a historical vehicle used in classic car shows.
The spam bots are out in full force. I have seen this spam everywhere I browse, in so many flavours and forms it’s exhausting
Or perhaps there are really a lot of people who really hate Nazis? Is that a far-fetched idea to you?
Ok nazi
are you a sh*tlib?
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“wait wait, this isn’t as bad as it looks, there’s a subtle context here that…”
-POW-
He did not visualize that coming.
Ha. Nice subversion.
Whenever I have a knee-jerk response and it seems too played out, I think of a way to subvert it instead.
Have you ever lived if you never have punched a Nazi?
He tried a jedi force trick to stop the punch. And failed.
richard b spencer is an a-hole. seriously!
if this were a socialist country, whoever got punched would’ve been in jail, and the person doing the punching would probably serve in the red army, working to protect the proletariat. seriously!
if you have a time machine, please prevent that red scare and also encourage any socialists/communists to express themselves. seriously!
should’ve been ran out of town on a rail like homer stokes in the 2000 film “o brother where art thou”. seriously!
they could be spamming that webcomic that explains “the paradox of tolerance” by k. popper ;) it would be very fitting to the ongoing situation.
<img alt="0wYYNuHYBXBoQoy.jpg" src="https://media.piefed.social/posts/0w/YY/0wYYNuHYBXBoQoy.jpg">
PS. I couldn’t find a cleaner, high res. version and pictoline.com (listed there at the source) only has it in spanish. To make things even worse, there are many edited versions that replace nazis with other ideologies :/ f* the volatility of the internet… Oh. gotta search the internet archive… yeah, nope… not there either. Anyone can find a better version or knows the original source to this? else shall we try upscaling this JPG?
Ironically found a bigger version on twitter of all places.
At this point I don’t even know what a Nazi is anymore.
That’s a problem you should fix.
Well, if they wear the flag, display the Swastika, do the salute or go on about white supremacy, that’s a pretty solid hint.
A Nazi is (originally) a particular brand of fascism, but much like champagne, it has become a generic term for the whole family of ideologies. The “ur-fascist” definition by Umberto Eco, who was witness to the fascist regime of Mussolini, highlights a few key traits if fascist ideology like a cult of tradition, emphasis on machismo and action over thought, obedience over independence, contempt for pacifism and weakness and populism that leverages frustrations, conspiracy theories and fears to rally its followers against some perceived enemy.
Not every trait is fascist on its own, but neither does some movement need to tick all boxes to be fascist. There’s sure to be some grey area, but if you have people rushing to inflict violence on anyone looking differently, spurred on by a guy promising to restore some ambiguous past glory by blaming the economic and social troubles on foreigners and beating the war drums… yeah, well, eventually the indicators start piling up.
By that definition, the US is fascist. Which it is.
You’ll get no argument from me ;-)
A lot of people get called “idiots” but that doesn’t mean I can’t actually differentiate who’s really an idiot.
(There is a subtle subtext in this reply, see if you can catch it.)
Wikipedia would probably be a good start then.
Aww, were you educated in the south or Midwest?
are you a sh*tlib?
Imgur did this same thing before not too long ago. People posted the gif for several days. I think some accounts were lost.
One of the reasons I left, they were banning accounts that posted the nazi asshat getting punched. It was also broadly pro Ukraine, and apparently Ukraine was geolocked from imgur, but not russia
Me too. I deleted a 10 year old account. I used to love that little corner of the net, even when it was small.
Good on them
A damn sight better than fucking corn.
Whaa??
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Where’s the jorn when you need it?
Aaaaaw he looks genuinely hurt
🌽🍿🌽🍿🌽🍿
nice
Did Trump said he was a nazi or something? What’s with these companies and tolerating them?
a company has no moral guiding principals outside of monetary gain. its board of directors members may have their own individual viewpoints, but as a collective, a corporation is representative only of the shareholder’s shared interest in making some money. if they wanted anything else, they would collectivize into another form.
generally speaking the best, i mean the best, you can expect from a BoD member is liberalism and all that entails. from a liberal perspective, pacifism is a virtue to be signaled, not an overall approach to the world with a goal of bringing about a just and fair society. liberals preaching non-violence don’t really care if someone is preaching violence so long as they don’t practice violence and the results of the preaching of violence remain unseen.
that’s how you wind up with liberals saying that the founder of turning point usa did things the right way and denouncing someone doing exactly the things he said were good to do, but moreover, denouncing people who have trained in violence accessing that violence in self defense. in the fight between fascism and anything other than fascism, violence must be used to denounce fascism because it is the only language fascists speak. you can use non-violence to interact with other political positions. those are positions who do not practice solely violence. but fascism believes access to violence grants license to use that violence. you can only counter this belief by rendering it scared to show itself in public
When faced with a difficult decision, Elon always does what’s reich.
are you proud of that comment, cos I am
This sort of things seems to happen on Imgur at least once a month…
Turns out people on the “left” can be just as easily manipulated as those on the right. Surely its our own communities stoking violence between americans. Noone from outside the country could possibly want that for us, could they?
Why’s it so easy to spot right wing propaganda but not left wing propaganda?
Because right-wing propaganda is “become Nazis, the left are all sub-humans” and the left wing propaganda is “what the fuck, the right are all Nazis!?”
It’s hard to spot propaganda when it’s just the truth spoken loudly.
Its the same message flipped. Its just as bigoted and divisive. And its not coming from americans either, this is other countries citizens attempting to tear america apart so it stops being a blight on the world. Hard to blame them, but we shouldnt be so naive.
The same folks sending “the left are subhuman!” to the right aren’t also sending “the right are Nazis!” to the left. That would be a duplicate signal and inefficient.
Instead, they’re sending “both sides suck” to the middle.
I’m not american so excuse my ignorance but are you defending nazis?
I’m pointing out that non-americans like to point the right at the left calling them violent antifa, while they do the same with the left by calling those on the right Nazis. Then Americans think the posters are also american and get angry at americans for it.
Its simple manipulation, cause my enemies to fight amongst themselves.
I don’t even now what antifa is lol
Antifa is anti-fascism. It’s illegal in the US. Yes, really. An executive order by Trump labels “Antifa” as a terrorist organisation despite it not being an organization, but a name for anti-fascism. Official announcement: whitehouse.gov/…/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-tr…
Left wing propaganda is… Being explicitly anti Nazi? Bro, I think you might be a Nazi if this offends you.
What would you prefer for your new user tag, Offended by Anti-Nazi Memes or Swastika Fan?
While not true, swastika fan made me laugh so I choose that one.
Too late, it’s the first one.
:(
‘The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi’ isn’t left-wing propaganda, it’s what my grandfathers taught me. Those men were definitely not “Left-wing” lol!
Did somebody get theiw feewings huwt?
Fuck Nazis, I hope they all get the Nazi punched out of them.
Can you elaborate on your point? What is the propaganda here? Who are the foreign actors?
Ok nazi
that’s rich coming from a jackson hinkle supporter. seriously!
What’s a Jackson Hinkle?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackson_Hinkle
oh and this is my 320th comment here on this lemmy instance. seriously!
Being anti-Nazi isn’t propaganda any more than being anti-genocide is propaganda. Being anti-Nazi and anti-genocide means you’re a normal and reasonable person. I’ll happily rebel against systems which are corrupt.
Promoting the labeling of large groups of people you have never met as Nazis, and then promoting violence against them, is a fantastic example of propaganda designed to create conflict and distrust amongst a community.
Shouldnt be so hard to see, I’m not sure why lemmy users are so susceptible to this type of manipulation.
I don’t have to meet a Nazi to know they’re a Nazi. Just as I don’t need to personally meet a cobra to know that what I’m looking at is a venomous snake belonging to the genus Naja.
You just described Nazi ideology
No you.
Would you have tried to feed this kind of hogcock to the victims of the holocaust as it was happening? Was everyone hating Nazis when they called themselves Nazis just a victim of leftists propaganda?
How many bites do you take of a shit sandwich before you know what you’re eating?
Sounds like the propaganda has been effective with you. I literally see no difference between you and a racist maga supporter. Both are simple, impulsive, and violent. None of those things are what make a good american.
Fuck, that is such a boring god damned rhetoric to hear at this point, grow a spine.
Guess being a decent person is boring.
Don’t break an arm jerking yourself off, there.
Mr. Glass had a hard life didnt he.
Any idea whether imgur is still allowing advertising from AfD? I ended up migrating away from them because of that and haven’t been back.
I remember they made a statement about it and I think they stopped.
The only reason any of these people have power is because we, as a society, continue to use their shit… Get the fuck off Twitter, get the fuck off Reddit, get the fuck off Facebook. Make those companies worthless by not using them it’s literally so easy. I’m sure I’m preaching to the choir here but God damn it’s literally so easy, just read a book. Touch some grass. We weren’t ready for the internet and it’s time to turn it off.
I’m really waiting for this idea to catch on. I got online in the late 80s to get away from normies and their boring, repetitive normie mind-viruses. Back then it was just nerds talking to other nerds. Nowadays you can’t even talk to your friends here. This whole thing is for people to get angry about politics and buy products. The sooner all these people leave, the sooner we can get back to what originally brought us here.
Hopefully soon, going on social media will be seen as a bad antisocial habit like smoking.
I can’t imagine using the word “normie” unironically in 2025.
Imagibe trying to police other people’s language in 2025
I’m not policing shit, but it paints an impression that you might not be aware of if you care about people’s impressions.
Well the impression I’m getting from you is that you’re an asshole 🤷🏼♂️
They are a mean cow, according to themselves.
I can’t imagine having trouble understanding that word but let me know if you actually need clarification.
I mean, way ahead of you. But we’re just jerking each other off if we think saying this downthread of a Lemmy post is changing anyone’s mind. This is the most Preaching To The Choir ass post you can make outside of an actual church.
eye-roll
Listen, if you want to walk around downtown with a big sandwich board that says “Log The Fuck Off And Touch Grass”, I’ll cheer for you when I see you. But there’s a reason people flock to an easily accessible portal for social engagement. And its naive to keep shouting “Log the fuck off!” from within the medium you can’t seem to quit yourself.
Did you write all that on the internet? Or did you scrawl it in ballpoint pen in the back of a book you’re reading?
“Society could improve somewhat” meme…
Idiots weren’t ready for the internet.
If people would get out of walled garden bot ridden bullshit, the internet could be great.
What non nerds use today is not internet. I like to call it Corpo-Net. Because these people never venture outside their billionaire facist websites.
if this were a socialist country, the internet would be a lot less corporate. seriously1
Im not sure having laws policing the internet is a good idea. Educating the populous and defunding propaganda advertising would be a better move.
Also I do agree with bizzle, people need to just turn it off more often (Go see Running Man if you haven’t. Exact parallels to our current state. )
I mean they got to power using those things so I’m not sure just handing over that sphere of influence is the best strategy.
we need a more leftist alternative to facebook. seriously!
They might be using the wrong swastika but I get the sentiment
Explain please. All the ones I see in the image are shaped like four adjoined letter L's which is the same way around that the Nazis used. Or are you referring to the fact that most of them aren't stood on a corner, diamond-wise?
I reckon it’s the latter, I noticed it too. Nazis are the only ones who use it tilted like that, as far as I know.
Let’s be real here, they’re the only ones that use it at all anymore.
You know, the subcontinent has around a billion people on it? Who see it scattered all around, for thousands of years.
Every Hindu and many Buddhists disagree. Way to just ignore almost a billion people dude. The world isn’t just the west.
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I totally forgot it’s also mirrored. Thanks for pulling it up
Yes and no. The one the Nazis used was / is also a symbol used in Asia. (And really, everywhere. It’s a fairly basic pattern.) The Nazis used it because of their obsession with Aryans. Sometimes it’s at an angle, sometimes it’s not.
Generally in the west, unless it’s on a statue of budda, any swastika-ish symbol since the ~1930s is going to be a reference to Nazis though.
see it’s interesting to me because I thought it was the way it looks like it should spin that matters, with the Buddhist one looking like it should spin clockwise and the Nazi one looking like it should spin counter clockwise. Is it the 45 degree tilt that makes the big difference?
It’s the direction the legs go. Nazis mirrored the eastern one and then tilted it 45°.
Its used both 卐 or 卍 ways in different non-nazi examples: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika
Plenty of modern nazis don’t know how to draw it though, so you can never be sure… <img alt="" src="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzocIF2WIAAdpcR.jpg">
This is glorious. Fucking idiots
Well yeah, one has to think to feel empathy and compassion. It’s easy to hate, place blame and ignore responsibility. I am all for peace and equal treatment, but those who refuse tolerability must be stopped.
John Browning intensifies.
antifa made those to make us look stupid!
/s
The amount of people making excuses for Nazis in this thread, is disgusting. Get fucked Nazi sympathizers. 🖕
To be fair, they do make a good drinks (jagermeister)
Yes, this one right here, Democracy Officer.
Excuse me, I am not a nazi! I’m just holding this uniform for a friend.
Who?
Idk, man, but its a statement that gets you upvotes.
Great thread for adding to your blocklist.
This but unironically. Screw Nazis.
Oh, I didn’t mean it ironically at all.
Remove the “ympathizers” and the space before
Nazi sympathizers are Nazis
The rise in nazis thinking they are acceptable
Nazis and other supremists are the reason intolerance needs to exist.
The social contract of tolerance doesn’t extend to those who are intolerant. They are outside the protection of Tolerant Society’s protection, and the Tolerant are free (and, in fact, strongly encouraged) not to tolerate them, because they aren’t covered.
This guy obviously didn’t get that memo
I really love that story. He is a better person than me. I really wish I still had hope for my fellow man like he does, but trump’s second election fucking broke me. People who I used to think were smart and empathetic were jumping on the “fuck your feelings” bandwagon.
I’ve lost hope. I’ve lost love. I only have anger anymore.
I find that assassinating prominent political figures helps me feel better.
.338 Lapua for the soul
I’m just thinking opsec here, why wouldn’t you choose the ubiquitous .308? I mean even ol’ Charles showed us the 30-06 can be effective even if you miss and it is a much more common round.
Better accuracy and mainly thinking of the longer range, to give oneself a wider choice of nests. You’re right though, the .308 would be much more difficult to trace. The truly important bit is sighting in the scope and practice.
How many have you killed today?
Nice try FBI
I don’t know your friends. But I’d argue there’s at least some reasoning for this.
If trade policies like globalization have harmed your economic status, offshoring a lot of the jobs you’d previously held, and you were having trouble feeding your family, wouldn’t you vote for the person you thought could fix this? Wouldn’t you say ‘fuck your feelings, I need to feed my family so I’m sorry if you have trouble putting the sex you want on your passport I’m more worried about feeding my family’? At least in concept?
I think that’s where a lot of that sentiment came from. The people of the nation are hurting, and part of Trump’s message always was ‘I see you hurting and I want to fix it’. Dems are totally tone deaf in their messaging. A huge % of the populace gets left out of the ‘American Dream’ and they say nothing. And in recent years they focus a lot on social justice issues and identity politics while ignoring the elephant in the room. It’s why those good people are saying fuck your feelings (IMHO at least), because if the choice is your feelings or their livelihood, then of course they’ll tell your feelings to shove off.
Of course it didn’t work out that way- government cutbacks, tariffs, foreign policy, all handled in such a ham-fisted non-strategic way that whatever benefit might have been gained was instead lost. And now it’s the little guy suffering, so you see a lot of people renouncing their votes.
All I’m saying is keep in mind some of those people who said ‘fuck your feelings’ thought they were fighting for a greater good. I don’t believe they turned malicious. Some did I’m sure, but not all of them.
Thanks for trying to help keep me grounded.
No worries my friend. I know it’s hard, but it’s useful to always assume good faith.
That applies to us too.
I think it especially applied in 2016, first time in my life that all pretense of respectful debate went away, replaced with ‘unfriend me if you like Trump’ as a mainstream accepted even encouraged position to have.
I talk to a lot of people who supported Trump. Most of them talked about tariffs, manufacturing, jobs, there was a dream of bringing back American industry and rolling back outsourcing. Yes there was some assholes, but there were plenty of good American folks who just wanted to keep their jobs.
But if you listened to Democrats, the only valid reason anyone would vote for Trump is because they are a tiki torch wielding racist misogynist sexist xenophobic islamophobic basket of deplorables. The public discourse broke down for good, it was all just insults from both sides.
Nobody saw a monster in the mirror. We only saw an opposition supporting a guy who was basically openly racist and creeped on his own daughter.
But they didn’t see a monster in the mirror either. They only saw an ivory tower elite whipping ourselves into a frenzy over which bathroom someone uses while the middle class is dying.
That’s why, in my opinion at least, it is always vitally important to generally assume good faith on the part of your opposition. Because if there is good faith, then we repair the cracks that are dividing the country. And if there really isn’t good faith, then we are all totally fucked anyway so it doesn’t make any goddamn difference.
I don’t know that he didn’t get it. He just hadn’t a different method of fighting back. Not everyone is going to be able to go around knocking them out. The vast majority of people won’t in fact. There are still other tools they can use to stop the spread, or, in rare cases, reverse it. You have to be careful to not legitimize it though if you’re doing something like that.
This thread got me thinking a little more about Mr. Davis.
We talk about ‘not tolerating intolerance’ but I think there’s a second level-- there’s the intolerance (the actions of the racist), and then there’s the intolerant (the racists themselves). It’s easy and simple to group the two together- we don’t want racism, we don’t want the KKK, we don’t want KKK members, all of you go fuck yourselves with your burning cross and go die in a fire (preferably in another county).
I don’t think Mr. Davis would tolerate intolerance any more than you or I. But I think what he does is tolerate the intolerant person, engage them in conversation, treat them like a human being. And THAT can help fix intolerance- by reaching out to the intolerant people and trying to bring them into the larger community and heal them, rather than shunning them and reinforcing their stereotypes.
“Hate the sin, love the sinner”, so to speak.
Exactly 100%
Yep, and it has the potential to be very effective. I think we need both of these —punching Nazis and talking with them to change their views.
Another big issue that goes with this is a lot of people will say that if their were bigots once then they should be shunned. This is very harmful though. If we do that then their only reasonable option is to double down. If they lose their group and also can’t be accepted by the rest of society then they’re never going to do that.
I think this problem is much larger than only this right now too. People make their opinions equal to them as a person. They feel if they change their opinion then they’re failing as a person. This isn’t true though. Changing your opinions when you’re shown new information is a sign of strength.
Can you explain to me how punching Nazis works to reduce Naziism and racism? What is the mechanism of action? Like how specifically does getting punched make someone less racist?
That is a genuine question and I’d love an answer.
I personally believe that punching racists only creates more hatred. The racist will be angry at the one who punched him, and thus less open to anti-racist messaging.
It probably won’t change that person (unless you kill them). It’s to show everyone else that it isn’t tolerated. It’s to prevent them from going around doing whatever they want as if it’s normal, which will make other people believe it’s acceptable and may start believing the same things.
Can you point to some other times in history where the threat of being beaten up has been effective in eradicating an ideology?
I can point to plenty of instances where driving an ideology underground only fuels its growth…
And look at the simple logic of it- if the guy in the big KKK hood says ‘the establishment doesn’t want you to acknowledge this’ and he then gets beaten up by mainstream majority people, you’ve just proved him right in the eyes of a would-be follower.
It’s like if you found someone who knows nothing about astronomy, and told them ‘today the sun will rise at 7:15am and set at 5:43pm, and the moon is mostly made of bleu cheese’ you’ve predicted two things correctly so that gives you credibility when they consider the 3rd.
If I said that to you, you’d say ‘you looked that up on Google, anyone can do that, and it’s well known the moon is made of rock’. But you are knowledgeable about astronomy (on a basic level at least).
This works with the KKK person because chances are the KKK person has had limited or no actual contact and understanding with black people. So he sees news reports of inner city black people doing crimes and it becomes easy to convince him black people are somehow inferior. And ‘THEY don’t want you to know the truth’ is a powerful message for someone already interested in counterculture / dislike of the mainstream.
That’s why Daryl Davis is effective- he sits down with the racist, who has a mental image of what a ‘black person’ is, and he’s not that. It’s like putting you on a rocket and flying you out to the moon and saying ‘okay we’re here, where’s the cheese?’
And that’s why violence ISN’T effective- because the racist is expecting violence, so being violent only reinforces their belief.
WWII?
Yeah, it usually doesn’t eradicate it. That’s basically never how we measure effectivity though. Being nice hasn’t either. Again, the point isn’t to change the person being attacked in these cases. It’s to show others that their views are not acceptable by society. It’s to show others that it isn’t a widely held belief and to not listen to them.
Yeah, unless we go on an all-out war against them it won’t be eradicated through violence. Growth can be slowed though. That’s why I said we need both violence and dialogue. They both can be useful tools.
You are confusing the spread of ideology with the spread of a conquistadorial government. Remember, most of the Germans who supported Hitler didn’t realize the Jews were being massacred. And we didn’t go to war to stop Nazi ideology, we went to war to stop Germany from conquering the entire fucking world through military means.
The problem with using force to stop an ideology is that to the people who might follow that ideology, the fact that you care enough to use force against a belief system must mean there is something important in that belief system they should be checking out. Trying to stop an ideology with force only makes that ideology stronger, gives it validation.
If you want to stop an ideology, ridicule it. Make fun of those who believe in it. Talk about how stupid they are. Talk about how they are morons not worth your time. Don’t give that ideology the validation of deserving force.
The other problem with violence, is it prevents dialogue. If you are hitting somebody while talking to them, they are not going to hear what you are saying.
I’d argue he isn’t tolerating white supremacy, he’s found a good way to counteract it. If he tolerated it he wouldn’t do anything.
It’s BY tolerating it (or more specifically, the people who espouse it) that he fights it.
And I think that’s the key difference- tolerating intolerance (the action), vs tolerating the intolerant (the people).
I think we would all (probably including Mr. Davis) agree that the action of intolerance should not be tolerated. For example, if a local movie theater wants to have ‘whites only’ movie nights, that should not be tolerated and in fact we should all aggressively fight back against such things wherever they happen.
But what of the intolerant person? What of the theater owner in the above example? Should we run him out of town? Tar and feather him? Refuse to talk to him?
The KKK folks he encountered are used to intolerance- threats, shouting, protests, etc. They know they’re not popular, but that helps feed the belief that they are right. They’re used to it. They’re NOT used to being welcomed by anti-racists.
And thus Mr. Davis got through to the racist- by tolerating the intolerant, not by tolerating intolerance. It’s a subtle but vital difference.
There’s two wolves in me. One ages with this and the other says nazi punks fuck off and thinks they should be punched.
I think that’s called conflict exhaustion. You’re sick of fighting, sick of holding your nose and respecting things and people you find repugnant, while there’s little/no serious progress in your direction, it seems like there’s more racism and hatred than ever. So part of you is ready to set the world on fire if it gets rid of MAGA and all the thinly veiled (or not so thinly veiled) racism and intolerance.
Just keep in mind that the dark wolf actually serves those nazi punks. Punching them only makes them stronger.
Yeah because Hitler was defeated by being nice to him, and if you let a Nazi into a bar and don’t kick them aggressively out, you’ll end up with a Nazi bar.
Violence isn’t my first choice but I’m not going to remove that card from my deck, and sometimes I really want to use that card.
In that sense you’re right- some people only understand and respect force, and the only way to stop them is to use force against them. The analogy of Hitler might be compared to hardened criminals- being nice to a criminal won’t stop them from victimizing you.
This is a different battle though. The small % of racists who want to burn minorities’ houses down, they must be met with force.
Force doesn’t win hearts and minds though. Force is intertwined with fear- ‘if you do xxx, force will be used against you’. So it might stop some church burnings, but it doesn’t stop racism. Force doesn’t win ‘hearts and minds’. Force doesn’t convince a racist that they were wrong. It might make them too afraid to speak up, but it doesn’t win them over, and they will only take their message underground, where it will thrive.
He is an outlier. Simply impossible for me and most of other people to be so selfless, social, patient and dedicated.
Why?
That view is fine and dandy with an an omniscient lens of who’s the reactionary intolerant and who is the originator of intolerance.
Group A: “I am intolerant of (group) because they need to go back to their own country and not live in mine.”
Group B: “I am intolerant of (group) because they don’t tolerate other ethnicities.”
This guy: “but who was intolerant first?”
Wrong question. It doesn’t matter who was “first”.
If the first group stops, the problem is gone.
If the second group stops, the problem is not gone but likely growing.
You both completely miss the argument. Cile is strawmanning, vas is again viewing from the omniscient or opposing viewpoint.
Virtually all intolerants perceive themselves as victims. Permitting “intolerance of intolerance” is just accelerationist, “might makes right” ideology.
This just feels like an enlightened centrist take or worse, playing cover for bigotry.
Cile is less strawmanning and more exemplifying the absurdity of applying this mentality to literal Nazis and white supremacists.
Can you give an example of your assertion, historical or imagined, where we SHOULDN’T act against acts of intolerance due to some muddying factor?
Ultimately, my argument is that the “paradox of tolerance” is intellectually dishonest answer to cognitive dissonance. It’s refusing to accept responsibility for selecting in-groups and out-groups.
It’s not prescriptive. These divisions are a natural conclusion of moral systems. Acting on these divisions is a natural conclusion of other moral systems.
Edit: accidentally double posted
Do the Nazis ever claim they are intolerant of minorities because the minorities were intolerant to them?
Unironically yes? Replacement theory, blood libel, global elitism… Whatever the angle, lots of -isms expouse roots in victimhood.
Reminds me of this old story:
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Definitely one of my favorites, and illustrates the point effectively.
They are becoming so by way of people not doing anything about it, and literally voting them into power.
take that, nazis
Just because I have a Nazi tattoo and go to Nazi rallies and think ALL Jews and Minorities should die DOESNT make Me a NAZI! In FACT it makes YOU a Nazi!
-Republicans!
Fuck, 92 really?
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People still using imgur?
People are still using reddit and Twitter, of course they’re still using imgur.
Imgur also has an interesting niche that isn’t covered by alternatives yet.
I don’t really notice that many people using it tbh, they blocked the UK rather than comply with child data protection laws and its not that often I see failed to load imgur pictures. It happens, but the vast majority of images are fine.
we need imgbox
“what kicked it off?” gestures broadly at everything
I’d say it all started in the late 1960s with Nixon’s implementation of the southern strategy. What we’re seeing today is the resultant avalanche of American fascism, appropriately composed of fragile white snowflakes.
For LGBT+ and PoC it’s been a violent, fascist state against them for a long time. Just now it’s affecting the white people to a point they’re uncomfortable with but make no mistake, they’ll just let it happen again in a few more years.
if only hubert humphrey was elected in 1968
oh and this is my 300th comment here on this lemmy instance. seriously!
Well it started with a genocidal colonial project. Then it started with the repression of class revolts like Bacon’s Rebellion. Then it started with the framing of a union of states that gave extra representation to rural slave-owners because their economic production was important. But it all started when those rural slave-owners wanted to make sure that new territorial expansions (remember, genocidal colonial project) also allowed slavery. Later it started when Lincoln was assassinated and his successor, Andrew Johnson, gave up on Reconstruction so the seditious slave-owning traitors weren’t held accountable for the sedition or slavery and were allowed back into seats of political power.
Also aren’t the tattoos on the Secretary of War ^TM^ neo-nazi?
Yes
Heh. Propaganda hits both ways, sunshine
I wouldn’t call this propaganda. Propaganda is done deliberately and this seems to be a popular sentiment. Even if it’s a quirk of the algorithm (which I’m not sure these could be posted chronologically, imgur sometimes does that iirc) it’s still not deliberate.
Why’d you start your comment with “heh” and end your comment with “sunshine”? Seemed creepy and condescending, and makes it seem like you feel that the backlash against Trump and White supremacy is just propaganda and not how people actually feel.
Personally, I view it as propaganda still, but I don’t view propaganda as bad inherently.
Propaganda to me is just an organized effort to persuade a larger audience of people politically. Its only bad if the aims are harmful unjustly.
So people organizing a take over to reiterate “No fucking Nazis!” Is a propaganda campaign, but its based.
Sam_Bass’s comments are mainly mildly contemptuous one-liners. Condescending is part of the persona, and when others interpret that manner as right wing, it seems to affirm sam’s misanthropy.
dead Nazis are good Nazis
Ok nazi
It still surprises me that people use Imgur as a social media site. Imgur to me is a place that hosts image to be used on other social media sites. Using imgur as a social media site is like using a url shortener as a social media site. What’s next, Captcha becomes a social media hangout?
As social media? I’m getting old. It used to just be an image hosting site.
I’m so old I remember the first post. Hey you can host images for reddit here. The other image hosting sites at the time sucked, they were slow, purged content frequently, and were full of ads. I signed up immediately and imgur was good for almost 10 years and nearly the only place images from reddit reddit users were hosted. I think the pressure to monetize combined with reddit’s own image hosting push sent them into the enshitification death spiral.
I never signed up, mainly because there was never any need to sign up. You could just go there, paste an image, and get a link to it.
Why would you sign up? It would be like signing up to use a URL shortener.
If you save the images to your account, you can repost them when the thread calls for it.
eg I have a photo of my foot when I broke it off at the ankle. It comes up occasionally and the link is still usable years later. You also have more control over visibility (and posting to Imgur users etc, ie don’t).
For throwaway memes you’ll never want to share again, treating it like a url shortener is great.
I was also looking to support good non advertising startups at the time, the 2000s we were still excited about what an open web would become, before enshitification became the norm.
How on earth did you manage that?
Don’t fuck around when it comes to ladders, I fell 3m onto tiles. Foot went through the ladder, my 80kg landed on the ladder and my ankle joint just snapped right off. It was pretty gnarly.
Imgur has been pretty shit at hosting images for other sites for about a decade because it’s trying very hard to keep people captive on its site. They added ways to prevent hotlinking and if I paste an imgur link in a chat, starting with i., supposedly a direct link to the image, the preview will not work and the page the link sends to will always open their whole site around that image. They really really want people to stay on there, and interact, or watch ads. AFAIK they have made that change about a decade ago as they wanted to monetize.
At least there won’t be bots with Captcha
I used it that way for years. It’s better for memes than fediverse or Reddit, except for two things: 1 occasionally the user base freaks the fuck out and starts spamming the same thing, like this. I don’t like Nazis, but that also means I don’t want literally everything on my funny picture site to be about keeping them out. 2 increasingly all the popular stuff isn’t memes at all, but shitting on trump and musk. See point 1.
Then they blocked the UK because they didn’t want to put an age field on their registration form (note this is not to do with age verification)
Doesnt sound all that different from here especially on #1, case in point beans, jeans and more recently corn for some reason
Except the corn posts were hilarious and varied
Browse under certain tags. It wont be 100% gone but its better. I recommend starting with viewing the “Caturday” Tag.
imgur.com/t/caturday
My neighbor uses Imgur as his main social media. I take that with a grain of salt though since he’s a millenial who only used flip phones til 2022, there are dozens like him, dozens!
Hosting is half of it, but the user-submitted section is a thriving social ecosystem. It’s a lot like reddit or Lemmy, but all submissions are image-based only with sizable comment sections attached like anywhere else. I was very involved there 12 years back and enjoyed it quite a lot. I tried really hard to earn my green (highest karma) badge, but I believe I got second or third highest before running out of steam. You had a profile full of badges and stuff, and users actually valued karma there, unlike on reddit or Lemmy.
But the mood changed other time and it became a hub for bullshit, sob stories and very tired, very played-out jokes. Then the eventual UI changes drove the nail in the coffin and I found it unusable.
So I infrequently use Imgur and basically a user got banned for saying ‘kill all nazis’ and another user’s post got taken down that had anti-nazi rhetoric. This is the most recent of a few scenarios where the mods have been seen as incompetent or overall shitty and so the community revolts. Honestly kinda dig it, at least they can coordinate and show a unified front…granted it’s slacktivism to a point but it gets people’s attention? Idk how I feel about it honestly.
People talk of Imgur being a leftist echo chamber. I have had more than enough neoliberal types on there argue about the benefits of capitalism to me or that we shouldn’t have worker solidarity. I feel when these events happen, it’s part legitimately pissed of users but a lot of people just riding the up vote wagon.
Everyone is posting the same image.
yes
Stop using the fucking service! I’m so sick of people complaining about all of these tech companies, but they continue to use it. People need to realize they have an addiction issue and treat that shit.
Meet the people who decide if you are a nazi: youtu.be/LXcHL2K-RSg
A lot of reddit users, especially those who have recently been permabanned due to the great censorship purge, are just hanging out there now. Not much censorship.
It’s super antifa. I scroll there a lot when I’m in a meme mood.
Yep I split my time between Lemmy and Imgur to fill the void after leaving reddit, cause Lemmy alone unfortunately isn’t enough to show you everything there was to see on reddit.
That said, be warned that it’s corporate owners have no problems with collecting as much data as they can off your phone and selling it to anyone who’s buying. Just look at this shit:
<img alt="" src="https://i.imgur.com/Gv03ZeH.png">
So if you do decide to go there, do yourself a favor and wear a condom. Install DuckDuckGo and enable “app tracking protection”, and get a DNS-level adblocker on your phone as well. AdGuard or NextDNS are both fine choices.
I just gave up imgur myself for voicing an opinion of civil disobedience and then told why don’t I go there myself with a gun and start shooting. Nuance seems to be dead everywhere.
+1 for AdGuard DNS. Using apps without it is a damn nightmare. Almost thought my phone had some kind of virus the other day when I temporarily turned it off and then opened mapquest
Thanks that’s good info to have.
I’m hearing they are starting to censor but that must be kinda new.
Too bad.
It was, as you say, a decent reddit alternative for images/memes.
There is a reason imgur enshitified the mobile web version of their website.
Wait how do you use imgur besides posting images
It’s got a frontpage with public posts and comments
Nah man, you gotta join the basement dwellers in usersub
Wait, how is “not equal to” a Nazi symbol?
It is a symbol used to intend that races are not equal.
Fun fact: that’s why most computer programming languages use “!=” instead of “≠”
Damn… this is the one thing I learned today. Thanks!
This is not one thing you learned today come on dude just think about it for two seconds. Could there possibly by another, much more likely reason that a programming language wouldn’t use ≠? Here’s a hint- if you’re at a computer, look down at your keyboard.
I mean, if the point you’re trying to make is that “≠” is not available on a keyboard, =/= is.
3 chars, not 2
What’s your point? =/= Isn’t the “not equals to” term, it’s !=
Just as ≥ isn’t available, so you have >= and ≈ is not on the keyboard, so we have ==
Formal logical operators require the you to press the alt key and enter a numerical sequence on the keypad. If I had to type the logical operators with alt codes it would slow me down.
!= is used instead of =/= because 1. shorter to type and 2. “!” means “not” in computer science.
<img alt="" src="https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/6cc317d3-a363-4ebf-be9a-c60b20df3d78.png">
No, it’s false. It’s actually because a key doesn’t exist for “≠” making “!=” easier to type. Exclamation mark is used because in computer science it means “not”.
I thought it had more to do with the fact that there isn’t a ≠ key on most people’s keyboards.
That’s the actual reason
My editor’s font/ligeratue changes the != To that symbol when programming. Unfortunately I have to use visual basic usually and type out Not most of the tiime but works well with C#.
Probably not a big increase in readability but I like it. Damn hate all the words needed in VB.net but oh well, could not be programming for work which would be worse and least still know .net libraries.
Whoa, I didn’t know Visual Basic is still around. I remember using VB6, many years ago
Well, that’s because they removed it after WW2. The original IBM keyboard had this, and other Nazi symbolism. (IBM collaborated with the Nazis, if you weren’t aware)
Another fun fact: the Windows logo today is where the swastika used to be. If you look closely, you can see how the swastika’s influence on Microsoft’s iconic logo persists to this very day
You’re just improvising bullshit now…
To be fair, there is a book called IBM and the Holocaust, and there is one instance of a typewriter with a special swastika key. It’s at the far right, topmost row. Typewriters like that, however, were made under “very rare circumstances”, according to this piece on Slate, which also happens to have photos of several German typewriters of the time.
As for the Windows thing, that’s nutty bullshit
Yeah… source needed.
Sauce required plz
“I wrote it on the internet” isn’t a good enough sauce for ppl, it’s tasteless
No it’s because you can’t type the not equal symbol very easily. If you type it it won’t work because most compilers aren’t expecting it.
But you know your fact is nicer than the boring reality
Uuuuugggghhhhh
Not Equal Sign
use imgbox, everyone
hey i’m thinking about studying on marxism-leninism (and variations therein). is there any way i can study in layman’s terms without losing focus quickly, and is there also any way i can encourage myself to study on ml?
???
Imgur has pissed me off long enough that I decided to roll my own this summer. When all I need is a place to store stuff for easy linking, building a web frontend is pretty trivial.
Plus I’m not limited to whatever file type and size imgur decides.
And guess what, my site condones punching Nazis:
<img alt="" src="https://dreifir.com/get?link=TgoCqcFWypiqXmIVZEim1wrZlBKmMjHG">
And it all comes full circle
(For those who don’t know, Imgur was invented by a user on reddit sick of the other image hosting sites until it eventually became what it was meant to replace)
Dang I actually remember the announcement post of Imgur on Reddit.
Out of curiosity, why build your own when CopyParty exists? Spin it up in Docker and call it a day.
Because I’m too old and crusty to use docker. Also, yet another hobby project because, apparently, I have too few unfinished ones.
EDIT: Plus I want the ability to selectively publish via bittorrent as well. Forgot that part.
copyparty is extremely simple to run, no need for docker. just a single python file
To be honest you don’t need to either of them. You can just upload images to your own instance unless some instances have disabled image uploading?
That tasty gif never gets old.
Boom! Knocked the fuck out.
Punching nazi’s is always the correct, right, and moral choice and action.
I was not prepared for that dopamine. Thank you good cryptid
This video with sound is like my emotional support video 🥰 my ASMR is the sound of Nazis being punched
Site address?
dreifir.com
…but signup isn’t possible yet (no, I will not allow anonymous uploads).
It looks like shit, but it works. DM me if you’re interested in testing it, and I’ll set up a login for you.
You know what? I don’t care what kicked it off. I don’t care if it’s a billionaire paying for bots. I’m just glad that the kind of people that get programmed by social media to vote for horrible shit might finally get programmed to do some good for a change.
Not a chance.
kind of wish we would stop letting them have Nordic runes.
I came here to say I’m still mad they make me hesitate to write in Futhark. One more reason to give them the Indiana Jones treatment
Are we putting them in a museum or off a Zeppelin?
Because I wanna ride a Zeppelin
And Buddhist symbols 卍 卐
That’s still going to take time. It is like their main symbol. Education on that in schools will go a long way. And it’s not just Buddhist either. Native Americans and Irish used to use them to.
Before 1930s that symbol was in magazines and shit too.
I believe 7 generations is the gold standard
I don’t know because all that media around it will still exist. And we are already like five generations in.
We had the richest man on earth throwing hitler salutes at the US presidential inauguration. I think it’s entirely possible that the swastika will be acceptable again within the next two generations. But it will be for the wrong reasons…
Jesus christ I forgot about that.
We will see what happens I guess.
I mean let’s count - boomers, gen x, millenials, gen z is only 4 generations later. Generation gamma or delta can decide if it’s a redeemable symbol and I cant imagine they’ll care all that much what their great (great) grandparents generation thought about it.
You forgot the silent generation and, depending on how you look at it, the golden generation.
True enough. Hey if we try hard enough maybe gen Z can reevaluate it - let’s include Gen Jones and the Xennials and Zillenials
We need to take back the Thorn. Too many things are written as Ye in fake middle English (or fake early modern) which should be written with the thorn!
I disagree strongly with your position (taking symbols from race supremacists and nationalists is great but sweet baby back ribs I don’t like seeing þ show up on my internets), but I respect you’re brave enough to stake a controversial and yet dignified position.
Talk to the thorn guy who misuses it all the time on here. Getting people to use it correctly first would be a start.
I would like to see a captcha of sorts where before someone could post to the internet or send a text message they need to prove they understand basic grammar and spelling.
Agreed, but be careful. People around here have really strong opinions about thorn usage
It’þ bigoted if you aþk me. Not my fault I have a þpeech impediment.
I’ve noticed that but have no idea why - can you explain?
I’m not someone who has such strong feelings about it, but it’s a pretty fascinating thing to see. Some people clearly get annoyed that the thorn is used incorrectly, others apparently just don’t like seeing it at all, probably because it makes writing more difficult to parse by having an unfamiliar symbol. That’s understandable, but it’s kind of wild how deeply it seems to bother some people. For example, we’re getting downvoted just for talking about it!
Weird. I thought it must have some kind of xenophobia connection judging by the reaction.
Could well be more to it beyond my guesses. I’m pretty mystified by how controversial the whole thing is honestly, and how often I see it coming up in various areas of Lemmy
Earlier this week a user posted “kill Nazis” and got a warning from Imgur saying that imgur is an inclusive platform, welcome to everyone. (which apparently includes Nazis?)
That’s what kicked this off (again).
There was already some upset feelings in the community because at the beginning of the week one of the “Elbow Deep In A” accounts got suspended over a “Gone Mild” drawing of a goblin girl. So it didn’t take much for the community to be really upset with “business daddy”
That second paragraph might as well be written in Cyrillic for all the sense it made. Do I want to know what gone mild goblin girls look like, I feel like I don’t, but I’m also morbidly curious.
Basically a drawing of a goblin girl in a bikini, and there’s a few accounts whose names start with “ElbowDeepInA…” (it started with “ElbowDeepInAHorse”)
Can I see the goblin girl?
I don’t have the image downloaded, and Imgur’s mods removed it, so I doubt it.
got banned from that shithole before business daddy owned them.
told a piece of shit promoting eugenics to “cleanse the gene pool and drink bleach” if they were so concerned about bad genetics.
never went back. I’m happy the community there became the toxic cesspool it deserved to become.
There was once someone making the claim that drinking bleach and bleach enemas cures autism.
I told them to test that theory and go drink bleach.
I got banned… i forget the flowery language they used, but basically got banned for being “hateful”, and my post deleted. the bleach boy account remained untouched.
probably a mod or friend of a mod. that’s at least what happened in my case.
oh absolutely.
The mods on imgur have always punished based on their personal beliefs and fetishes, not on the rules.
That’s how I got permabanned on Twitter, before the musk set in.
Frontex was trying to use pride month to boost their image, just weeks after footage came out of them pushing leaky migrant boats back into sea. They said something like “bullying is never the answer”, to which I responded “No, but pushing people back to drown at sea is, right?”
That was apparently “hate speech”, and I got permabanned.
Where nazis are welcome, no one else is.
At first I was annoyed that Imgur got blocked for people in the UK. Now I’m relieved. Something something Nazi bar…
I’m just thankful that the community isn’t one to make it a nazi bar, even if business daddy wants it to be.
I recently got something similar on reddit. I don’t remeber the exact quote, but “I can’t believe these people haven’t been murdered yet” is apparently a credible death threat now.
I got a 24 hour ban for saying Danielle Smith should stand on her head so the blood will rush to get brain and she could have a coherent thought. “Promoting Violence”
I got a 72 hour ban for responding to someone who said Vance will never be US President. I said he would when Trump had the inevitable coronary from eating too many cheeseburgers. “Promoting violence”
Perma-ban for responding to a story about Kristi Noem telling Canada how to run border security with saying she should keep her cunt ass on her side of the border. “Inciting violence”.
Reddit WANTS to be a right wing echo chamber and looks for excuses to ban people who don’t agree with that world view.
What’s the deal with the grid symbol? The “hashtag” with extra lines?
I believe the point is the swastika is actually hidden in the grid.
Thanks, that makes sense-ish.
based
Found one
I don’t get it. They clearly have a left leaning base. Why throw that away?
what
astroturfing