Richest American to FAFO?
from Tm12@lemmy.ca to nostupidquestions@lemmy.world on 16 Oct 01:52
https://lemmy.ca/post/53451369

I know France popularized the Guillotine, but what was the highest profile case of an American fucking around and finding out?

Elizabeth Holmes, Sam Bankman-Freid, and Martin Shkreli come to the top of mind. Maybe Bernie Maddoff?

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Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world on 16 Oct 01:54 next collapse

How about the owner of Trump Burger getting deported?

Oh. I guess he’s nowhere near the richest, I gave him extra credit for irony.

Tm12@lemmy.ca on 16 Oct 01:56 collapse

The irony on this one was chefs kiss

foodandart@lemmy.zip on 16 Oct 02:25 next collapse

I’d say Elon Musk. He threw how many millions at Trump’s presidential run thinking Don would return the favor once he was president…

So how’d that work out for you, Elon?

Tm12@lemmy.ca on 16 Oct 02:45 next collapse

Still worth $500 billion usd. Waiting for the FO.

JakJak98@lemmy.world on 16 Oct 02:54 collapse

Less about monetary FO and more the pride and self righteous FO

Tm12@lemmy.ca on 16 Oct 02:59 collapse

Fair play.

scarabic@lemmy.world on 16 Oct 05:53 next collapse

I wish I could say Trump but the man evidently has an unlimited lifetime pass to fuck around without finding out.

Perspectivist@feddit.uk on 16 Oct 09:35 next collapse

That’s money he found between his couch cushions. It’s a rounding error on his balance sheet.

A_norny_mousse@feddit.org on 16 Oct 11:06 next collapse

He certainly FA plenty. I think he also FO plenty (more than just your example) but either he’s very clever about covering up his looming bankruptcy or he really is too big to fail.

Lasherz12@lemmy.world on 16 Oct 12:07 collapse

Third option, he manipulates the stock and crypto markets and nobody bats an eye, netting huge sums of wealth.

melsaskca@lemmy.ca on 16 Oct 12:30 collapse

I see him more as a south african with pretensions of ideologically becoming an american, regardless of his papers.

ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com on 16 Oct 02:35 next collapse

Brian Thompson, UnitedHealthcare CEO? The one that Luigi allegedly took out.

Tm12@lemmy.ca on 16 Oct 02:44 next collapse

Whomever murdered this Brian gentleman wasn’t the State but I appreciate the sentiment.

Ioughttamow@fedia.io on 16 Oct 06:06 next collapse

Murder? Self defense

porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml on 16 Oct 06:24 collapse

The people doing the guillotining weren’t the state (at first anyway)

rothaine@lemmy.zip on 16 Oct 23:04 collapse

Wasn’t a billionaire

EndOfLine@lemmy.world on 16 Oct 03:28 next collapse

Founding Father, Alexander Hamilton was shot and killed in a duel for insulting Vice President at the time, Aaron Burr.

Tm12@lemmy.ca on 16 Oct 03:31 next collapse

Can we add Kennedy (Vietnam) and Lincoln (Slavery) too? Or were their FO not related to their FA?

HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club on 16 Oct 05:42 collapse

We don’t fully understand JFK’s assassin, but it is likely not due to Vietnam as Vietnam wasn’t a major issue at the time of Kennedy’s death.

Lincoln’s assassination could be seen as a defense of slavery and other Southern “rights”.

Aatube@kbin.melroy.org on 16 Oct 03:59 collapse

I don't think he was that rich... surely there's richer Americans who opposed even richer Americans and got knocked down, like at least Aaron Swartz. Not that I disagree with them on what led to their deaths. (Also, insult? More like going to great yet civil and pleasantrishly-polite lengths to oppose his campaigns.)

Formfiller@lemmy.world on 16 Oct 04:25 next collapse

Brian Thompson

Coopr8@kbin.earth on 16 Oct 05:42 next collapse

Bernie Madoff had the largest fall from $65 billion estimated at peak to $17 billion at time of arrest then dying in prison.

Changpeng Zhao of Binance will be the richest person in the US, and probably ever, to do time in prison after conviction, but his wealth won't be impacted and it is only a few months, so hardly much Finding Out involved.

Sam Bankman-Fried is potentially an even bigger Find Out than Madoff, because unlike Madoff who maintained a large estate even after going to jail, SBF has gone from around $24 billion to $15.5 Billion at time of arrest, to now close to zero on paper as almost all his wealth was tied up in FTX and crypto and it was "all" siezed as part of his conviction and the FTX winddown. Now that said, he probably has a lot of crypto stashed in cold wallets somewhere that have appreciated substantially since his arrest, so it is hard to know how much he would be worth if he ever got access to them, but as I understand it he is basically banned from using computers and facing over 100 years on his sentence, so he better be putting in a lot of good behavior of he ever hopes to see any of that secret stash again.

DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social on 17 Oct 20:11 collapse

Idk, SBF is kind of a moron, I could see him not having a lot of cold wallets out there. Hardly anyone is really as paranoid as they pretend to be.

Lasherz12@lemmy.world on 16 Oct 12:16 next collapse

Brian Thompson and Alex Jones are the only example of rich people falling from grace because of people in a different class that I can think of. Most examples like Elizabeth got clapped because they played class warfare tactics against their own team. Grifting is only allowed against the poor, otherwise it’s called securities fraud.

lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world on 16 Oct 13:15 next collapse

Maybe the highest profile cases have yet to occur. Here’s hoping.

A_norny_mousse@feddit.org on 16 Oct 19:56 collapse

And on that note I can think of several. I mean not just those I wish consequences on, but those where this is also likely to occur.

SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world on 17 Oct 21:18 collapse

Taking this opportunity to inform anyone that didn’t hear the suppressed news about the CEO of the real estate investment company Blackstone was killed this year.

fortune.com/…/wesley-lepatner-blackstone-breit-re…

exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 18 Oct 14:54 collapse

The CEO of a specific fund that Blackstone operates, yes. And she was killed by someone targeting the NFL headquarters, who blamed football and CTE for some of his issues.

SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world on 18 Oct 18:42 collapse

He clearly wasn’t targeting the NFL