How long can someone physically walk for?
from LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone to nostupidquestions@lemmy.world on 28 Sep 12:10
https://piefed.blahaj.zone/post/322317

I watched the long walk and now I’m reading the book. I was wondering, how credible is the distance? It’s 300 to 400 miles. What would happen to your body on the way?

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neidu3@sh.itjust.works on 28 Sep 12:18 next collapse

I’m not familiar with your source material. Are we talking about one continuous segment without stops, or can the walker rest at regular intervals?

Lumidaub@feddit.org on 28 Sep 12:31 collapse

No rest and no falling beneath below 3 miles per hour.

Edit: under lower than to lesser than (proof-read your posts)

blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 28 Sep 13:02 next collapse

No stopping and no falling below 3mph?

It’s the plot for the latest in the Speed franchise

Lumidaub@feddit.org on 28 Sep 13:17 next collapse

Only the book was published in the 70s.

SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org on 28 Sep 14:03 collapse

SHHH don't give them ideas!

blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 28 Sep 19:19 collapse

Coming to cinemas near you… The latest in the Speed Franchise!!!

Hang on to your hats, you’re not ready for…

Walk

SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org on 29 Sep 21:47 collapse

Could also be in the Saw series, you have to walk or you die, with the puppet in the tricycle following you.

Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk on 28 Sep 14:00 collapse

I’ve not seen the film yet. I wonder, if there’s no maximum speed can you just sprint ahead and then stop for a little rest?

Lumidaub@feddit.org on 28 Sep 14:04 next collapse

They have guards that shoot you if you stop.

Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk on 28 Sep 14:07 collapse

I know, but do the guards stay with the group or will one break off and jog alongside you…

Lumidaub@feddit.org on 28 Sep 14:25 collapse

It’s been a while since I read it but the guards also there to make sure you don’t abscond. Which would probably include running ahead of the group.

calliope@retrolemmy.com on 28 Sep 14:34 collapse

Correct, in the book they have multiple groups of soldiers that run ahead (in vehicles) if there is a vanguard.

I’m reading it too because I read it over a decade ago and making it into a movie seemed stupid to me. So I wanted to know how stupid.

michaelmrose@lemmy.world on 29 Sep 03:56 collapse

It’s not about the average over time. You are required to keep a continuous pace. If you drop below spec you are given a warning. The fourth warning is a rain of lead in your body. You can lose a warning by keeping pace for one hour and you can accumulate addition warnings until mortality if you don’t get back up to speed after a given warning.

So with no warnings you have less than 40 seconds to live if you just stop.

kaidenshi@lemmy.world on 28 Sep 12:21 next collapse

It’s been theorized that human beings’ ability to walk or jog long distances is what brought us out of our primitive era and made us the most advanced species on the planet.

www.nature.com/articles/nature03052

HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club on 28 Sep 13:24 collapse

Yep. It brought about a new hunting strategy that a lot of prey didn’t have a counter strategy for.

Wytch@lemmy.zip on 28 Sep 14:24 collapse

Sweating is OP

Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk on 28 Sep 12:24 next collapse

Ultra-marathon runners will typically run/jog for over 100 miles without stopping (except for a piss), and the hard-core ones will just piss themselves anyway.

With decent footwear and training the only thing stopping you from walking will be your need for sleep which will come at the 48-36 hour mark. But even then I suppose the desire to not be shot will keep you going further.

At an average walking pace of 4mph, you can walk 300 miles in just over 3 days without stopping

blarghly@lemmy.world on 28 Sep 13:47 next collapse

and the hard-core ones will just piss themselves anyway.

If you’re a guy, you can walk and piss at the same time. Just walk sideways and whip your dick out.

CrazyHorse@lemmy.cafe on 28 Sep 14:22 collapse

Walking backwards works too!

njm1314@lemmy.world on 28 Sep 19:11 collapse

A regular Plennie Wingo

LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone on 28 Sep 14:44 next collapse

God that’s a long distance! It’s beyond me

Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk on 28 Sep 16:01 collapse

And me lol

treadful@lemmy.zip on 28 Sep 20:04 collapse

Like Dean Karzanes. Dude can run almost indefinitely.

IWW4@lemmy.zip on 28 Sep 12:29 next collapse

It is unknown what the the max distance is. Terry fox ran a marathon every day over the course of 140+ days and ran around 3500 miles …… and he was missing a leg when he did it.

AtariDump@lemmy.world on 29 Sep 02:48 next collapse

Was he running to find his leg?

Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works on 30 Sep 13:05 collapse

Sort of, or the legs of others? Ran to raise money for cancer research and awareness, he’s basically the closest thing we have to a secular Saint in mainstream Canadian culture. The Terry Fox Run is a staple of grade school life.

thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/terry-fox

reptar@lemmy.world on 29 Sep 12:29 collapse

Just learned about Terry Fox from Do Go On. What a legend

IWW4@lemmy.zip on 29 Sep 12:31 collapse

Absolute legend!!!

etchinghillside@reddthat.com on 28 Sep 12:54 next collapse

The skin on your feet would be doing some lovely things and everything that could chafe would.

LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone on 28 Sep 14:45 collapse

What would happen to your feet exactly?

gedaliyah@lemmy.world on 28 Sep 13:35 next collapse

The Appalachian Trail is about 2000 miles and a lot if people walk that. Worth a Google search. There are documentaries, memoirs, plenty of before/after photos, etc.

village604@adultswim.fan on 28 Sep 14:36 collapse

They mean without stopping.

If you’re unfamiliar with the Long Walk, it’s a story where a bunch of kids are in a contest to see who can walk the longest. If you stop walking, you get shot.

feannag@sh.itjust.works on 28 Sep 16:31 next collapse

Ooohh. I definitely read that first as The Long Walk about Slawomir Rawicz’s escape from the gulag to India.

gedaliyah@lemmy.world on 28 Sep 17:18 collapse

Oh, okay

cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 28 Sep 14:41 next collapse

Stephen King is really bad with numbers. Apparently in the book they had to constantly walk at 4-5MPH, but they dropped it to 3 for the book. But sometimes King will just pull numbers straight out of his ass and his editor just lets it fly.

Similar case, in IT, he constantly described Ben as fat, as wider than he was tall, etc., basically fat shaming the kid, but his actual weight was just a bit over average. It’s just in 1958 when the book took place, there really weren’t fat kids, and the “fat kid” was the one who didn’t look starved. Not like now where everyone’s thick and fat really means fat. It’s a matter of perspective, but the fact of the matter is, we might even consider Ben to be normal or underweight compared with the 11 year old boys (what he was) of today. King just liked to fat-shame. (But he also gave Ben a huge member in the train scene. Like shockingly big. So he didn’t do the boy entirely dirty!)

SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca on 28 Sep 15:38 next collapse

Over 2000 miles, barefoot.

But Americans collapse after halfway across the parking lot.

LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone on 28 Sep 15:40 next collapse

Holy shit

SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works on 28 Sep 18:55 next collapse

Yeah, but have you seen some of our distopian level parking lots?

otp@sh.itjust.works on 28 Sep 19:12 collapse

Most are at airports, but it’s amazing to me that number one is a shopping mall in Canada… albeit Canada’s Texas.

The other non-airports were media-related amusement parks (mostly Disney)

pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip on 28 Sep 21:43 collapse

“Paweł undertook this challenge to raise money for the Diamond Soul Foundation, a charity he co-founded which supports people in their recovery from addiction. They also organize free one-week camps in Sicily for underprivileged children.”

Very cool.

LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone on 29 Sep 12:32 collapse

That’s incredible 😲

RBWells@lemmy.world on 28 Sep 17:05 next collapse

Without rest? I don’t know. I could walk a marathon distance with the right shoes but would need to stop to pee. Two marathons? Probably not without training some months, and where would I find the time? Also, if it was in the day here, risk of heat exhaustion is pretty high at midday & afternoon.

300 miles? No.

Trail@lemmy.world on 28 Sep 19:16 collapse

Assuming male, because it’s the internet afterall, you don’t need to stop walking to pee. Just saying.

CandleTiger@programming.dev on 28 Sep 19:57 next collapse

You really do. Have you tried it?

elevenbones@sh.itjust.works on 28 Sep 20:17 next collapse

Just keep walking, you’ll pee eventually

Trail@lemmy.world on 29 Sep 10:56 collapse

Of course.

CandleTiger@programming.dev on 29 Sep 20:41 collapse

I guess different people have different special talents.

RBWells@lemmy.world on 28 Sep 21:06 collapse

Ha! Nope, lady and I guess technically no, don’t need to stop but it would get very uncomfortable!

SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works on 28 Sep 18:47 next collapse

There was a pilrimage/challenge a friend of mine went on. It was walking 20 miles each day for 3 days for a total of 60 mi/96.5 km. That was in upstate NY where there are plenty of hills to keep it interesting

Blisters, chafing and fatigue is common but many people do that every year

Drekaridill@feddit.is on 28 Sep 18:55 collapse

I don’t know what math you’re using but 20 miles is 32.2 km

Trail@lemmy.world on 28 Sep 19:15 collapse

Now multiply this by 3 and you will understand what he meant.

SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works on 28 Sep 19:21 collapse

Yes you are both correct, I’ll fix myself

solrize@lemmy.ml on 28 Sep 20:15 next collapse

I watched the long walk and now I’m reading the book. I was wondering, how credible is the distance? It’s 300 to 400 miles. What would happen to your body on the way?

I don’t know what happens in the long walk, but if you mean nonstop, 300-400 miles isn’t happening unless maybe as a death march. OTOH for someone who is in shape, 300-400 miles with stops for sleep and provisions is certainly doable. The Appalachian Trail is 2200 miles and lots of people through-hike it. It typically takes 5 to 7 months though some do it faster. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appalachian_Trail

Oh man, the long walk sounds nuts. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Long_Walk_(novel)

Sleep deprivation, no pooping, etc. Yeah, I found Stephen King to be a horrible writer and never understood his appeal.

einkorn@feddit.org on 29 Sep 02:37 next collapse

300-400 miles isn’t happening unless maybe as a death march.

He-he, I guess you typed that before reading the wiki page.

Professorozone@lemmy.world on 29 Sep 03:13 next collapse

I think he’s a great writer that frequently drops the ball with the ending and has a few big flops.

However, he wrote the Green Mile and the Shawshank Redemption, which are awesome. He also wrote Thinner, which I quite liked. I recently read, I have to remember the date 11-23-69 I think it was. That was pretty good. I think many people liked the Shining. I personally never saw or read it though. So personally I have mixed feelings.

RubberDuck@lemmy.world on 29 Sep 05:01 next collapse

But they do poop in the book and the movie. In quite graphic detail lol

adhocfungus@midwest.social on 30 Sep 03:28 collapse

I haven’t seen the movie, but the book is very detailed about how the death march is tearing apart their bodies and minds. Some basically sleepwalk and get the tiniest fraction of rest. But even those that do are driven insane.

I’m not really a fan of most of King’s work, but The Long Walk is worth a read even if you don’t like his other stuff.

solrize@lemmy.ml on 30 Sep 03:45 collapse

My main dislike about the few King works that I read was that the characters got put into horror-like situations and then had no freedom of action. This sounds like another one of those. I guess I’ll make a note of its existence in case I find it on a park bench someday, but I don’t feel likely to go looking for it. Thanks.

HubertManne@piefed.social on 29 Sep 02:57 next collapse

I mean I walk like 4 miles an hour when fresh so that would be like 100 hours if I could keep it up which im not sure I could keep it up for more than a few hours but like even assuming I could that would be over 4 days with no sleep which I doubt I can do. At some point I would be shambling like a zombie from the walking dead.

toddestan@lemmy.world on 29 Sep 04:30 next collapse

If you use the book’s pace of 4 MPH, which is actually what many people would consider a brisk walk, 300-400 miles would take 75-100 hours, or around 3-4 days. That’s a long time to stay up without sleeping, let alone being physically active the entire time. I’d guess someone who is really fit might be able to do half of that before collapsing, with most people probably not making past the first 24 hours.

Someone who was using drugs or doping might be able to do it, but even then I’d be skeptical.

LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone on 29 Sep 12:34 collapse

I did wonder that they walked for days and hadn’t done training for it. I just can’t see it’s possible

QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works on 29 Sep 21:39 next collapse

your body is designed to keep going at all costs because we used to run around and chase things evolutionarily. iirc your body will start to digest your muscles in any sort of attempt to just keep going for a little longer

iirc at least. This knowledge comes from a “explain the joke” subreddit

Psythik@lemmy.world on 30 Sep 04:05 next collapse

Our ability to keep carrying on is what makes us unique. Most animals will eventually get so tired that their body literally shuts down and they can’t proceed any further. Early humans used this to their advantage when hunting.

Qwel@sopuli.xyz on 30 Sep 11:19 collapse

The body is not designed to keep effort going at all costs. You will be informed when you have a cramp, because you should slow down and wait it out before continuing. The whole point of pain is to react to broken stuff, usually by stopping using it.

It will however keep life going at all costs, sometimes digesting replaceable muscles into energy for non-replaceable elements. But it’s more about starvation resistance than about chasing. It could also be the case if we were a specie of static filter feeders

A lot of the human body has been affected by long walks and runs, and we do have (well, not me in particular) over-average stamina developped presumably for hunting. It’s just the specific exemple of muscle digestion that I’m going after here

this knowledge comes from, uh… idk :3

LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world on 30 Sep 10:42 collapse

When I was younger I could walk all day with no pain or fatigue or limitations. In 40s & 50s now feet & hips & low back scream “stop!” around mile 9.