If you are in the US, and a karen threatens to call ICE on you, what's the best course of action?
from DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works to nostupidquestions@lemmy.world on 25 Sep 09:49
https://sh.itjust.works/post/46719752
from DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works to nostupidquestions@lemmy.world on 25 Sep 09:49
https://sh.itjust.works/post/46719752
I saw a clip on reddit about such karen and now that scenario is stuck in my head, new fear unlocked.
What’s the best response for each scenario:
You are:
- Undocumented
- Legal - Visa
- Legal - Permanent Resident
- Naturalized Citizen
- Citizen at Birth
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With the blatant disregard for the rule of law this administration has already shown, it may not matter what number you fall under. A lot of it, very sadly, seems to be dependent on what you look like.
If you’re 1 through 3, why are you picking a fight with a Karen? Get out before it escalates. And if it does, keep your head down and hope for the best. Or move cities, especially if you’re #1. 4’s and 5’s may want to have proof of citizenship accessible. Keep a picture of your birth/naturalization certificate and/or passport on your phone, preferably behind a password like in a password vault app - don’t just keep it in your camera roll, it needs encrypting.
It’s also worthwhile keeping in mind that some Karens’ bark is worse than their bite. They may have gotten off on the threat enough to not go thru with it.
reddit.com/…/im_tired_of_these_folks_always_threa…
I didn’t turn on sounds because its too depressing to hear the rant, but based on comments, its a doordash driver and the karen is making accusations of “they took our jobs” basically, and karen keeps getting in their face. Like what was this person supposed to do? Feels terrifying.
What a fucking asshole this woman is. “Taking our jerbs” bitch I’m sure you wouldn’t be caught dead driving DoorDash!
I never understand how a person can have this much hate in their heart.
Watch an hour of fox, then you will
Karens are like that.
Terk a DeeRRrrrr!
I’m not going to watch the video. Site unseen I’m willing to pass judgment and consider her a truly terrible person. That doesn’t change the math though. If you have no visa to work, you may need to bow out of that job. You can’t risk denunciation on principle. Which is a fucking depressing sentence to write. But here we are in 2025.
They should have just driven away and not engaged with her.
Literally just walk away. Like, this isn’t hard or complicated. If someone is threatening you, you walk away. If they are trying to get physical, you push past them and run.
#1-5: Power-wash her uvula with OC spray. Can’t promise it’ll improve things but it’ll be hilarious.
For someone of European descent, maybe.
But for everyone else, that’s gonna incite a race riot. I don’t know about y’all, but I don’t wanna see my compatriots getting attacked due to my actions.
Same goes for Karens tho.
Throw on a Richard Nixon mask first, it’ll look more real than he ever did.
I don’t condone violence normally for any reason, but anyone who does this to anyone clearly deserves a wooden board to the face.
The prisons are full of people who thought their violence was justified.
Use some logic. Cops aren’t going to search that hard for someone who might be an illegal. They are going to look long and hard for someone who assaulted an old woman.
Think so? I admire your naiveté.
It’s like you didn’t bother to read the article you posted.
The police attacked the woman. They don’t like it when you usurp their privilege.
That is laughable, and the article i linked provides context to my position. Now, if you had clarified by saying the cops would look long and hard for someone that assaulted a “well known” or “wealthy” old woman, I’d have no notes. I believe you understand the difference.
lol!
An old woman gets assaulted by someone she accused of being an illegal immigrant?
She’ll be more famous than Charlie Kirk.
Indeed. Full agreement.
So make sure you cash in your violence card properly before you go to prison.
Duh
& get raped & assaulted in prison for their efforts ?? You seem to forget to add that part. Oh wait; you don’t care about anyone but yourself.
Nobody asked for your fetish dude
What an amazing projection & nobody deserves to go jail by pandering to a deranged low-life like you.
I’ll add that too. Go be the violent vigilante all by yourself.
I mean, you are kinda right here, and I admit that my answer was mostly emotional.
I’m not saying I would do that, nor am I suggesting others should. Just that for the sake of cosmic balance, it is deserved.
I’ve been in a few confrontations in my life.
First rule in any confrontation is to maintain your cool. If you aren’t going to throw the first punch, you want to look like the reasonable one. They are like dogs and can smell fear.
The figure out how to deescalate the situation. Ask her what she wants? Free delivery? A written apology? Yes her to death and walk away.
Having spent time in retail, yesing her to death is a legit strategy. You don’t have to agree with her for real, it’s like dealing with a toddler pitching a fit. They are primed for screaming and confrontation and don’t really know how to deal with someone who refuses to ‘play their part’ in the drama. Takes the wind out of their sails and leaves them confused, which is the perfect time to escape.
Thank you
As #5 white looking man: I’d tell her go ahead I’ll wait. Then once they are here, tell ICE she runs an illegal daycare out of here home for illegal aliens’ kids and that she is upset because I called her at the church potluck. Proceed to give them a local megachurch or if not available a white baptist church.
They don’t ask questions, so you don’t need to continue. They just drag people away, it seems. They scoop up a dozen kiwis a month, which means your even your non-kiwi pasty-white self gets none of the privilege you’re counting on.
Neither will the karen
kiwis? what do New Zealanders have to do with it? I feel like something is flying very far over my head
I think the responses have to vary by gender and skin color.
1: run and hope they don’t know your identity 2: tell em to go to hell 3: tell em to go to hell 4: tell em to go to hell 5: tell em to go to hell
All I’ll say is that anyone who would do that to someone is a class traitor and deserves consequences
Call ICE on her. She could be one of those criminal Canadians or Irish or Greeks.
That’s unbelievable. The Greeks won’t steal anybody’s jobs.
Act like you can’t hear and get away. If she grabs or tries to block moving away then escalate to what is required to get away.
Hopefully this isn’t like, at your place of work or something.
Still similar advice, get away, have a manager or ally deal with them. The point is to try and deescalate by removing yourself from the situation. If they prevent that and continue escalating then you escalate to the level needed to get away and call the cops on them.
That Karen has threatened your life. Handle the situation as such.
This is not how you avoid deportation
More like torture. They’ll mix you in with the kkk immates and you’ll get tortured to death
Or get shot to death, when an anti-ICE activist fires on your transport.
“anti-ice”
shoots the enemies of ICE, never even hitting even one ICE agent
🧐
The thing about all these conspiracy theories about false flag killings, is why would you choose such an incredibly risky way, where the target could just as easily be accidentally killed if you get the windage wrong?
The reality is that is vastly more likely that they were trying to kill ICE employees, but since they were blindly firing at a van, they only hit detainees.
Put her on blast to every leftists within a 500 mile radius
Threaten to call MS13, TdN or any of the other scaremongering topics on her.
We went domestic recently... Now it is antifa
Give her the talk about how nobody except for roughly 0.04% of people are actually native.
If there still a shit stain, use there own logic.
Just say what if i called ice on you?
They will most likely be white, and or something racist with it.
Use there racist remarks to publicly shame them, and tell them you can be white and an illegal alien.
Show them there logic is flawed, poke holes in there ideologys
This… Doesn’t work at all here.
Generally, you’re long past this point.
I’m actually a little sad that you didn’t go for the trifecta and incorrectly use “their” in place of “there” at least once.
Dude are you serious? Attempt to debate with them? I’m not sure you really understand the scenario.
None of you fools in this thread have ever encountered a public situation, much less a dangerous public situation huh?
DagwoodIII’s Is the only real answer here. lemmy.world/post/36439135/19587202
Sir, this is a niche social media board on the internet.
Of course we don’t encounter these situations as we would prefer to not go in public because we might encounter situations like these.
Me: “Bitch, I’m white!”
Even if you are the blackest person on earth, this will immediately flabbergast and disarm them giving you a chance to escape.
Due to issues regarding paranoia and melanin, I have declined to answer your question. Despite counsel’s advice, I upvoted anyway. This message will be deleted in 24 hours.
Treat them like a shark and punch them in the nose before running away.
/half-joking
My family already did that, we left mainland China, because PRC was fucked economically and employment was high, very difficult to find a job, and jobs were very shit, and no labor protections. (and also the government sucked, corrupt af)
Then we ended up in the US a decade ago (well, more than a decade ago)
So um…
Lol…
Left a dictatorship just to end up in another dictatorship 🙃. (Despite this, I still hate that place, there’s no fucking way I wanna go back to that hell, too much toxic masculinity and anti-LGBT sentiments, and ableism in society, besides, my primary language is English and there’s no way in hell I’d wanna learn written Chinese, jesus christ that shit’s hard, I’m practically illiterate there, so much media is censored, I don’t like it.)
AFAIK, EU isn’t gonna take asylum cases seriously. I’m cis and not LGBT btw, so I have no legitimate asylum claims.
🤷♂️
Sorry to break this to you, but you’re gay, because it’s absolutely OK to lie to gatekeepers.
Brb, downloading grindr. 🤭
anyone who threatens me will receive it in turn.
you’re gonna call ICE on me? better hope they get to me before I get to you, because there won’t be any hope for you and your family if they don’t.
This is one of the reasons I won’t consider traveling to the US because I think how any of those work out is going to depend on the luck of how others involved are feeling in that moment.
4 and 5 have very different answers depending on race. I’m white, have a Midwestern accent, and was born here. I can look at this person like they’re a moron and ask if they’ve never heard an ohio accent before or what. A Latino born in the same hospital who grew up a town over has to be more diplomatic about explaining that them and their parents were born here.
Similarly a white person naturalized from Australia can be a lot more blase than a brown person naturalized from anywhere.
I’m Chinese American, am naturalized Citizen. Can I pull the “model minority” card? I speak English with no “foreign” accents since I grew up here.
I don’t think theres currently a sterotype of (East) Asian Americans being “criminals”, is there?
That said tho, after Covid, i’m not sure anymore.