from DaddysLittleSlut@lemmy.world to nostupidquestions@lemmy.world on 29 Sep 02:22
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Hii! So a few days ago I began a nearly fully carnivore diet. Eating Angus and 85% lean grass fed patties and I have been experiencing these crazy symptoms.
Question with no context: Do you experience what feels like our ancestral psychology of Kill, Conquer or Reproduce endlessly. From eating a carnivorous diet?
It began with this incredible energy and irritation to certain things. That was almost all consuming. Though I had to control of course.
Then this absolute arousal mixed with the want to eat more meat but also nonstop reproduce.
Beyond that I had amazing pain management. Where I got a cut that almost circled my whole arm. Barely any pain. When before that’d sting like a BITCH.
I also today held a 375 F pan and only got one blister and the rest of my hand healed in 30 minutes to an hour and I held it for probably 30 seconds or longer. I’d assume you’d have worse burns. Though most of my hand has no burns, the elasticity of my thumb came back in that 30-1 h. Only thing left is the blister that’s tiny.
Lastly I managed to automatically breathe or just absorb air for 15 minutes rapidly moving. Probably 10-15 reps per 20 seconds until I went 30-40 reps per 20 seconds. I pushed myself to max near the end and that’s when my breathing dramatically increased needing me to actually breathe.
Does anyone else experience this with eating constant meat? It almost feels like Kill, Conquer or Reproduce. If that makes sense.
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This is the most cartoonish thing I’ve read about recently. Bravo.
Why is it cartoonish. I’m confused 😭😓
Possibly the super-powers-from-meat angle you are explaining. 🙃
You may need a longer sample period to identify any changes happening here.
But aren’t these changes already happening? I mean from everything that I’ve typed and experienced. It seems like the changes happened really rapidly maybe not fully developed but yeah.
If you let us know the video or article that got you on the diet, we can advise more.
Often diet advice is bogus when it does not come from a dietician.
Some random advice can be harmful.
None. Just threw this together and my findings just matched ancestral traits. (Basically non civilized traits, tho tbh I’ve always matched those just this really kick started it)
great bait, very funny 10/10
It’s not rage bait 🥲 why do you even assume that
Like genuinely writing a question and context to why I’m asking.
lol dedicated to the bit too
It’s not a bit 😭
I beg your finest fucking pardon. The fuck did I just read? I get why other comments are saying bait.
I’ve done basically full carnivore back when my partner first had bariatric surgery because we don’t have the largest food budget and she needed to avoid carbs while having the highest amount of protein for the smallest possible volume of food so meat was basically the only thing that fit the bill.
What in the frosted mini fuck are you on about?
Judging by their history id say they were already delusional. Lack of carbs may have cause a psychotic break.
The opposite actually, there is lots of very promising research on the metabolism mind connection. Basically applying therapeutic carbohydrate restriction (keto) for psychiatric disorders.
lol “It’s only their carnivore diet that is keeping them this lucid!” gtfo
I didn’t say that. Thanks for your consistent downvotes! It reminds me that you are still around!
I feel like it was a fair reading of what you said.
My intention is to illustrate that the abundance of carbs appears to be more linked to psychotic issues.
I didn’t say, or imply, that the original poster is lucid.
What is a frosted mini fuck? Is this not normal? I thought this was 😭😂
Lots of incoherent exaggerations coming from this account.
Honestly, most of my stuff is coherent. You guys just don’t assume so because it’s so far-fetched to you. Also, it’s not exaggeration. It’s just specifically what I experienced.
Quality shitpost
It’s not a shitpost? I genuinely was asking but I’ll take that as no???
You good?
Yeah doing amazing! Better than I’ve felt in a long time!
Beyond sounding like absolute anti-carnivore hogwash or placebo, it sounds like a weirdly accelerated case of that parasite you can get from eating undercooked red meat.
Yeah couldn’t be uncooked here if anything slightly overdone for my liking. I just can’t gauge it perfectly with the oven.
Undercooked, not uncooked. The parasite is still active even in rare meat. It needs to be done to medium before it’s truly safe (grey all the way through and easily slips off the fork when inserted).
I also had a second question would what I said be good why would it be anti carnivore hogwash? Wouldn’t someone want these effects?
You described eating meat as messing with your brain. Even if general effects are considered positive, it’s not exactly great and the crazy vegans (specifically vegans who are crazy, not calling all vegans crazy) would certainly sell it as messing with your brain chemistry.
I thought these effects where honest fantastic great is an understatement.
Oh, I see what you mean with the vegan stuff. It’s stupid because The benefits that I’ve mentioned are like extremely beneficial to me like I haven’t felt this good in the very long time.
Also, to be fair, I’ve grown up around dogs, so my mental state is a lot more primal than most people. so the meat may affect me a lot differently. To me, I just thought this was normal like the ancestral animalistic traits.
Though I’m guessing from the reactions, I am a very odd outlier.
There are trends across different diet communities. Carnivores self describe as having “Carnivore calm” and things that used to bother them don’t anymore.
Vegans have their own reputation for their “calmness” as well. i.e. @jerkface@lemmy.ca here who just downvoted this comment, and also runs several vegan communities. They know how strong their reputation is they made it their whole personality.
Fiber is clearly the thing that makes humans sane.
My genuine advice for you is to find a psychiatrist, tell them everything, and then follow their recommendations
I’d assume that’s a nutritionist rather because they understand how food works on the body.
The food is not doing this to you. The increased energy and irritability you describe are hallmark symptoms of a manic episode. Other symptoms include increased sex drive, loss of impulse control, and increased goal-directed activity.
I had a patient once who was manic as fuck and even came into the hospital denying that he was manic, that instead he started an all-meat diet and it gave him limitless energy. In real life, he was experiencing mania before he started that diet, and his manic brain was just continually connecting dots that weren’t actually connected.
I highly recommend you see a psychiatrist for an evaluation. If you are experiencing a manic episode, it could get worse before it gets better. I’ve seen it get a lot worse for people
Ohhh it’s not the type of irritability I have with mania at all no. Also I have full control over impulse control. Also it’s not the same at all how it felt when I was manic with any of these symptoms. Including I live currently in a 10-30% Hypomania. I can control it up to 80-85% mania. I can assure you this isn’t it.
I gained evolutionary bipolar. My induction. I can tell I haven’t reached over 85% mania in like two years now or longer. It simply is so low probability. Basically impossible. In my case.
Bipolar disorder is not curable, meaning that if you have it, you have it forever. That you have experienced mania before, but think right now it’s “impossible” that you’re manic, that’s a worrying sign.
Yeah I know it’s curable but you can manage certain symptoms. I learned to control symptoms so much it sense a second nature. I understand it’s likely you won’t believe anything I’m saying but that’s ok.
That belief is symptomatic.
What do you assume I’d let it control my life?
One doesn’t have a choice in the matter. One cannot think one’s way out of psychosis. It just incorporates one’s ideas on the subject and continues to blossom. Please show your posts and comments to someone you trust IRL.
Ohhh so now it’s psychosis. Yeah no I’ve been cleared for that. Also yeah this is like 8-10 crazy compared to my life. They hear and witness everything in person. My partners, friends even family.
No one is “cleared for psychosis”, it can occur to anyone and not just from psychiatric conditions. You are just the age when many people start to experience it for the first time. I cannot reason you into seeing this if you are in the middle of it, but I do sincerely hope you show this to someone in your life, even if it’s just because you’re curious what they would say. People in psychosis rarely intentionally do anything dangerous even when urged by its narrative, but they can easily accidentally do things to harm themselves and others, and it can place an enormous strain on relationships if left untreated.
The reason it’s not is because this type of stuff has been happening for years now and each year was cleared when I visited. Now I don’t got the money. So not worth wasting the money.
Talk to your psychiatrist ASAP.
I don’t need to. I can assure you that. This is not bipolar. The effects mentioned here. How they show up in bipolar are very different and more debilitating.
Whether you’re bipolar or not, people are saying that you are obviously not well. I think it was irresponsible for people to call what we are seeing mania with such certainty but you have certainly started to lose touch with our shared reality.
It’s not that lost touch with reality. It’s that I’m just different. I’ve always been very more animalistic. Like I actually make Cassowary sounds and more types of sound. Constantly.
I even have an Estrus literally. So while this post may seem crazy for others. The ancestral primal instincts I’m gaining. Truly I don’t think is that crazy. I just didn’t know I was this odd.
Show this post to your wife.
I’ve already told her everything I posted here 💃🏼
I mean, she has said multiple times she’s awaiting the day that I realize I’m not normal.
You did not “hold” a 200c pan for 30 seconds and escape with one blister and no burns.
Eating meat doesn’t rewrite your genetic code and give you heat resistance.
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Yeah I only had a blister on my middle finger. Everything else came back perfectly fine. I’m not saying that alone did it but I wouldn’t be surprised if it had some effect
You need to goto a scientist and let them know you are a superhuman
In the real world, you either didnt hold onto it for 30 seconds, or the pan wasn’t very hot.
You would be physically incapable of holding something that is 200c for more than a second. Your body wouldn’t let you.
And if for some reason you dont have nerve endings, you’d be in hospital
Sorry for my late reply. Just thought on this. It’s not a superpower in truth. Everyone has it. I’ve been studying the connection between possible magical connectors in the brain and how magic can actually just manipulate the energy and matter in our universe. What people assume are superpowers are just specially designed. Augments to my body. Such as 50% frost giant DNA, 40% Asgardian DNA and 10% human. Around there.
Everyone can do what I’m doing just have to train their brain to be able to fully use or connect to these connectors. Then, if you think about it scientifically if a being could control all energy and matter. They could do things from making fireballs. Flying. Teleporting and more. I would never agree and say something is real, that I could not possibly explain through a scientific method
It’s always nice when someone proves that there are indeed stupid questions.
Is it stupid to ask what you experienced?
You worry me. Go see a psychiatrist, PLEASE. no matter how much you think this isn’t mania, this IS mania.
This is nothing like Mania. No.
Hi I’m one of the moderators of !carnivore@discuss.online
No, the most common psychological effect people report is being very calm and less anxious.
Can you describe the irritation?
This is not a known affect of eating a carnivore diet, pain sensitivity should be the same
Well one irritation is when I first started this my body craved the meat itself and I was like deeply hard focused in on wanting to eat more meat.
Secondly. I get this very protective overwhelming anger when for example my wife talks about her abusive mom. That doesn’t feel like anything from mania as I’ve experienced that before but almost an animalistic sadistic anger. That is cold and controlled but the moment you are released it’s beyond anything you’d expect in a human.
Mania when I felt it was this overwhelming heat, unbearable, like every single thing sets you off. Hard to control. This is nothing like that.
Just eat a vegetable dude…
Don’t even know if I have any I like. My parents didn’t do good on feeding me. This is the first time I’ve had anything like high quality meat in years.
Yeah, no. First off, at that temperature you’d have ended up hospitalized if you held on to it for 30 seconds, and no, your body will not repair itself in 30 minutes no matter what you think. This is the real world, not X-Files…
Having said that, I feel like you’re having different issues and maybe you should talk to a psychologist?
Also, eat vegetables. Seriously, what is it with the Internet and giving people terrible ideas?
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I mean my hand is healed but that blister 🤷♂️
No one gave me any ideas. Why does everyone assume. Someone has to give you an idea. My body reacts very well to this.
Hi, YES!
Okay, so like half your post is pure lunacy, but low carb dieting is known to commonly cause hypomania in many people. This is often one of the desired effects of the diet, which often simply manifests as feeling more energetic and optimistic. It sounds like you might be experiencing this effect to an extreme.
I recommend that you (1) immediately come to terms with the fact that you are not in your right mind and (2) eat some carbs and see if you feel more normal. Then work with a mental health professional if you want to continue experimenting with low carb diet strategies.
This is new information for me. Do you have any references I could read more on?
I forgot where I first heard it, but here is an article.
I actually noticed it myself when being on a keto diet (which I’d been following for weight loss) spontaneously cured my depression.
That is a very well written article, I just wish they’d provided a source for the hypomania. The sources they provided showed only benefits.
no, but it does make me want to get on all fours and eat grass and say “mooooo”
Fun I think
Has it had any effect on your wings?
Very likely yeah I mean that’s how I pushed myself to 40 reps every 20 seconds. Before I could only do about 25 to 30 reps every 20 seconds. And that was painful
I was just thinking about you the other day. Glad to see you’re still around.
Based on how preposterous most of what you’re saying is, it must have driven you insane. A small blister from holding a 375 degree pan? Bullshit.
Hahaa not this for sure. I mean this is just a new addition onto years of things but yeah one blister
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Okay, okay. I know it’s a cliche right now, but can we please please please get this guy a brain scan? This sounds like a really good case for a few parasites.
Seriously. You either had a massive massive anemia (red meat can temporarily (!) help then), you are a top shitposter or you have a major issue.
Source: Healthcare professional. Not your HCP.
And btw(edit): Diet change is absolutely known to cause mania in bipolar and similar diseases and a lot of what you write sounds like a patient in a phase of mania or hypomania. Please seek help. Or lick a lithium battery, I don’t really care.
Honestly neither. My bloodwork has been honestly optimal before this diet. No deficiencies or anything.
Also this is just normal due to our ancestral psychology. I thought at least until yesterday. Maybe I’ve retained too much from that state. Since to me this just makes sense.
Please see my edit in case you haven’t before.
And your ancestors were omnivores unless you have a lot of sudden body hair growth on a full moon.
Seriously dude. I know mania feels great. But it isn’t.
Yes. I know our ancestors where omnivores but meat specifically triggered much in them as it is me now. As a hard food to get.
And yes. This isn’t anything like mania to me. Mania it’s irritation is warm, everything triggers, overwhelming. This is cold, calculating, overwhelming and sadistic. Completely different.
This is not mania. I understand though this is the only baseline you have to compare.
Also mania could be a really beneficial thing if you can control it. There’s a theory I had that our ancestors when they were constantly being hunted by wolves, Other creatures throughout time. That this constant rush would make them induced into hypomania at the minimum. Those with bipolar and In the societies, you would have to learn to control and hone those specific negative effects. Like a risk taking without thinking.
The irritation would be a negative effect or they would send it to something else.
Don’t get me wrong I’m not saying this is easy to do by any means but they had to to survive if they went down to depression. It’s likely that would’ve caused their death because imagine how depression that we see today affecting them when they couldn’t stop running or being alter.
Unless they had a tribe or a pack, they would be stranded. They would be stuck surviving while barely wanting to move. Thoughts all negative. Why I assume in this period they could not easily reach depression because they had to keep moving and moving and moving they may have been stressed out or down by the stress of surviving like this, but their constant state of mind was either an hypomania or mania if they had bipolar.
Now this comes into what I develop today called the evolutionary bipolar. I can control my hypomania and all of its negative symptoms completely. I can control mania up to 80 to 85%
If I went to a medical professional right now to be seen for bipolar, they would be so confused by how I act compared to how I actually talk about how I see things. They would begin to notice the mania in the back, but it not controlling anything I do because I don’t allow it to. I had a family. You really think I was going to allow such a pathetic thing to control me???