“Production” to describe multiplication?
from scheep@lemmy.world to nostupidquestions@lemmy.world on 08 Jun 11:36
https://lemmy.world/post/31025403

When you add, the end result is a sum. The process of addition can also be called summation. If this is the case, why doesn’t anyone call the process of multiplication production? It would also open up to some good jokes…FACTORies do PRODUCTION

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nemo@piefed.social on 08 Jun 11:43 next collapse

IIRC that is a synonym already; and Factor » Product isn't a pun, just the what the words literally mean.

scheep@lemmy.world on 08 Jun 11:49 collapse

oop ok. Wait, production is a word for multiplication? never knew that…

dysprosium@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 08 Jun 13:13 collapse

Product not production

Morlark@feddit.uk on 09 Jun 02:49 collapse

OP literally emphasised the distinction between process and result in their post, specifically so that this exact confusion would not occur, and yet still everyone is talking about the word for the result instead of the process.

dysprosium@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 09 Jun 05:16 collapse

What the hell are you talking about. I corrected OP because they used the wrong word in a sentence

DirigibleProtein@aussie.zone on 08 Jun 11:52 next collapse

More than forty years ago, “product” was used at school to mean multiplication. ie, “What is the product of 35 and 41?”

Maybe education systems in different countries used different terms over the years?

Boddhisatva@lemmy.world on 08 Jun 11:58 next collapse

It still is, and I think it’s universal for the English speaking parts of the world.

The result of addition is the sum.

The result of subtraction is the difference.

The result of multiplication is the product.

The result of division is the quotient.

lurch@sh.itjust.works on 08 Jun 19:26 collapse

It’s also used in German. AFAIK this kind of math wording is latin based.

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 08 Jun 12:12 next collapse

Physics still uses “cross-product” for a specific type of multiplication. Or did like 10 years ago at least.

Morlark@feddit.uk on 09 Jun 02:52 collapse

No. Everywhere uses the same terms, you just didn’t understand the question.

The result of addition is the sum. The sum is calculated by summation of inputs.

The result of multiplication is the product. The product is calculated by __________ of inputs.

OP’s question is: why can’t the blank be “production”, by analogy with “summation”?

Deestan@lemmy.world on 08 Jun 12:13 next collapse

I am a bit confused here, because what you describe is what is currently happening. :)

A multiplication of one or more factors is a product.

Both factors and product are usually numbers, so we commonly just say that, but the math terms are as above

DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz on 08 Jun 13:13 next collapse

It seems like every other poster here confusing your use of the word “production” and simply stating that “product” is an acceptable word to use lol

scheep@lemmy.world on 08 Jun 13:58 collapse

whoops maybe I should havw worded it a bit differently

schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de on 08 Jun 13:17 collapse

because “production” already means something else and there already is the very good word “multiplication” for it; “summation” doesn’t mean anything else common

scheep@lemmy.world on 08 Jun 14:01 next collapse

that makes sense. But then you have words like “differentiate” (find the difference between vs multiplying the coefficients by the indexes and reducing the indexes by one) but I guess it’s because the math “differentiate” isn’t really used by people who don’t so math (whereas something like addition or multiplication is used in everyday tasks)

jbrains@sh.itjust.works on 08 Jun 14:34 next collapse

“summation” is also related to summary. All these words are related to reducing a collection of things to a single thing. A sum reduces a collection of numbers to its total. A summary reduces a collection of thoughts to its essence. A summation is effectively a synonym for a summary.

The word multiplication describes the operation applied to each pair of numbers. The word production would refer to the act of multiplying an arbitrary collection of numbers. Just as it would be for addition and summation.

It would fit the pattern.

Morlark@feddit.uk on 09 Jun 02:50 collapse

“Summation” already means something else, and funnily enough words can have different meanings in different contexts without causing any confusion.