If Microsoft ended Windows 10 support, why is it still getting updates like every other day?
from Kolanaki@pawb.social to nostupidquestions@lemmy.world on 18 Nov 23:05
https://pawb.social/post/35073752

I was hoping it was just gonna stop annoying me every 12-36 hours but it feels like it’s updating even more recently.

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SolidShake@lemmy.world on 18 Nov 23:08 next collapse

You can turn them off you know.

Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz on 18 Nov 23:29 collapse

Except Microsoft will randomly decide the updates are critical and force install them anyways. I literally switched to Linux because Microsoft kept force installing an update that would lock up my PC until I reverted to a recovery. I tried everything I could to disable them, disabling updates, delaying updates, marking the network as metered, editing the registry to disable updates, etc. Some of those worked for awhile, but in the end, as long as the PC was connected to the Internet eventually Microsoft would start installing the update again making the computer unusable.

Been on Linux ever since.

SolidShake@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 00:47 collapse

This is incorrect. You can turn them off…

Skullgrid@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 01:01 next collapse

I tried. Somehow it didn’t take. I spent years putting it on hibernate. On Linux now

SolidShake@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 01:09 next collapse

Fair enough then lol.

KombatWombat@lemmy.world on 20 Nov 13:08 collapse

I have had them disabled for years. You have to go through the registry. It’s cumbersome but it doesn’t take long and is permanent.

Skullgrid@lemmy.world on 20 Nov 18:39 collapse

motherfucker what part of I said did do you not understand? Are YOU a windows update? There’s certain ones, and they changed and they eventually unblocked the fucking updates, or you know what, if it wasn’t that, the process was so fucking convoluted that I did the wrong ones.

Don’t fucking come in here and gaslight people. these fucking things happened. We tried.

KombatWombat@lemmy.world on 21 Nov 04:52 collapse

I’m not gaslighting. There’s a way to do it that’s permanent, but if you do it wrong it will revert. I’m speaking from personal experience.

cecilkorik@piefed.ca on 19 Nov 01:36 next collapse

You think you can turn them off. Temporarily. They mysteriously turn back on. For no obvious reason. I have literally never in my life been successful at actually permanently disabling Windows Updates. And god knows I have tried. The setting re-enables itself. The disabled service re-enables itself. Some installer quietly turns them back on. You change some unrelated setting and suddenly, there’s Windows Update again! There’s no escape.

Windows: “Oh, I know you already told me you didn’t want important updates, but I just assumed you still wanted critical updates? Okay, okay, I get it, you don’t want critical updates either, I hear you…” <3 weeks later> “I’ve been trying to warn you about this for the last 2 weeks but you’ve had your notifications turned off, but now I really have to because Microsoft told me this next update is SOOO important that I really need to install it just this once, okay! But really, you should have at least critical updates too. I mean, installing this update requires them anyway, and all the important updates too, so I’ll just turn those back on for you to make this whole process easier next time Microsoft has a super-critical-urgent-mega-feature-emergency-update for you, sorry for all this inconvenience!” <reboots in the middle of your work>

Linux is the only solution that has worked.

Krudler@lemmy.world on 20 Nov 14:29 collapse

A routing rule solves it, but you’re too Linux to know that.

thermal_shock@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 07:19 next collapse

You can delay them, but it will update at the worst time.

pyria@kbin.melroy.org on 19 Nov 12:37 collapse

No. Supporting the other comments, the most you can do is reschedule them over and over. So you're wasting time just pushing back the dates but you will forget one day and they'll happen when you least expect it.

There is no way to turn them off and that is intent by design. Because Microsoft feels that the user needs their hand held anymore in making decisions based on a new computer they spent hundreds of dollars on, on top of whatever licenses they bothered spending more money on just so they can tell you when you will update. There is no choice, no option. You WILL do it and like it. Because Microsoft.

Most of the annoying updates I've found have been for .NET. Fuck .NET.

Strider@lemmy.world on 18 Nov 23:10 next collapse

Are you in Europe and do you have a Microsoft account configured? Them you’d receive updates until 10/26.

Does Windows update (not) show that there’s no longer any support?

Kolanaki@pawb.social on 18 Nov 23:22 collapse

Nope. US and don’t even use the login system at all. One of the benefits of having the Pro edition.

dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 00:03 collapse

Pro or Enterprise? Or even better, Enterprise IoT LSTC? The latter is going to get security updates until 2032.

And those enrolled ($61) in the Extended Security Updates program get one more year of security support (not feature updates), and the various Enterprise versions will continue to get updates for up to another seven years, depending on the version.

Microsoft didn’t stop updating Windows 10 and they won’t for quite some time. They’re simply no longer offering those updates to most users of the consumer versions of Windows.

Windows Update can also hand you updates to your drivers independent of the support status of your copy of Windows. For instance, if you install a copy of Windows 7 even today it will still pull driver files from Microsoft.

Kolanaki@pawb.social on 19 Nov 00:12 collapse

Just Pro. It was the bare minimum I needed to have access to the Group Policy Editor that let me actually control everything and not have what amounts to child-safety locks on everything deeper than basic settings.

Strider@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 07:29 collapse

Interesting and curious!

crazycraw@crazypeople.online on 18 Nov 23:42 next collapse

because.

C O N T I N U U M

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 18 Nov 23:44 next collapse

What are the updates? Is it Windows getting the update, or Windows defender/programs that use windows update for updates?

As far as I’m aware even windows 7’s windows defender still gets updates.

NVM looks like that one got EOLed too

Kolanaki@pawb.social on 18 Nov 23:45 collapse

The one that popped up prompting the question is a security update for the OS.

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 18 Nov 23:50 collapse

bleepingcomputer.com/…/microsoft-windows-10-kb507…

Looks like there’s an issue installing the extended support updates should you subscribe to it. So it makes sense to just give everyone the update.

Also sometimes when there’s security issues that MS thinks are absolutely critical they’ll release those updates to everyone. Windows 7 got a few.

Romkslrqusz@lemmy.zip on 18 Nov 23:53 next collapse

If you opted into ESU, those would be the security updates that you opted to receive.

Lasherz12@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 00:20 next collapse

Just going out on a limb, but with windows 11 being so similar to 10, it would make sense to continue to port updates over to 10 that are fully compatible. That being said, feature updates are over.

pyria@kbin.melroy.org on 19 Nov 12:43 collapse

Did you get something that is along the lines of Microsoft saying you can extend one year of support? Because I remember getting that before I reinstalled my windows, like it was backed to October 2026 or something.