What's the Bechdel test equivalent for images? (en.wikipedia.org)
from Artisian@lemmy.world to nostupidquestions@lemmy.world on 06 Sep 23:47
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For some images, there is dialog, so the test could be transferred directly (Manga, comic books, etc). But many many images don’t have any text at all, and often only one character.

I think there’s probably some version of ‘the male gaze’ that could be avoided. But maybe someone has a more canonical answer?

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MantisToboggon@lazysoci.al on 06 Sep 23:57 next collapse

girl on girl pornography.

palordrolap@fedia.io on 07 Sep 11:48 collapse

I'm not sure that counts, considering which subset of the population is the largest consumer of it. That in and of itself doesn't make it fail*, but the fact that the makers of it know this and thus might be tailoring it for that audience does kind of make the the whole thing about men.

Basically, we're just swapping one meaning of intercourse for another.

* in the same way a group of men watching a regular movie that passes the test wouldn't change that fact.

MantisToboggon@lazysoci.al on 07 Sep 15:30 collapse

That, and titties.

RBWells@lemmy.world on 07 Sep 00:11 next collapse

I think print media is much better about this - I read a lot of indie comics and there’s plenty of women talking to women about war or other things (though a whole lot of it seems to be war), and in books too. Maybe just because there are more of them there is more variety overall.

If I understand correctly what you are asking, is there art by women that has a different perspective, then I think that answer is yes, but beyond “know it when you see it” I can’t think of a test.

FuglyDuck@lemmy.world on 07 Sep 01:47 next collapse

I don’t think there is one test.

“Images” is too broad of a concept. Like what that judge said… “I’ll know porn when I see it.”

Beyond that, as an is using an attractive woman to sell makeup gonna fail? What if it’s just a totally bland photo of a face, just an attractive one?

Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 07 Sep 08:23 collapse

My landscape photography definitely shows signs of male bias, but I probably shouldn’t be naked in them.

Venator@lemmy.nz on 07 Sep 05:56 collapse

I think you’d have to look at all the artists works to get an idea. I don’t think you’d be able to formulate any simple rules such as that though…