from sem@piefed.blahaj.zone to nostupidquestions@lemmy.world on 23 Feb 16:12
https://piefed.blahaj.zone/c/nostupidquestions/p/598315/is-it-rude-to-go-through-the-car-wash-with-a-bunch-of-snow-on-your-car
So, it just snowed, but it is above freezing today. I went through the car wash once earlier this year with snow on the car, and the workers did a lot more work than usual, spraying and moving the snow off the top of the car before I went through. Which was nice because I didn’t have to do it.
Is it rude to go through the car wash with snow on your car or is that part of the service provided by the car wash?
EDIT: For more context, the car wash is right down the street from where I live, so by going through, I’m removing the snow so I’m NOT driving around with snow on the car.
I’m also removing a lot of snow before leaving the driveway, but not getting 100% off.
Seems like the consensus is that driving with dangerous amounts of snow on a car is not ok, but few people have addressed the carwash portion of the question.
EDIT 2: I think I’m gonna go in and ask the workers today what they think.
EDIT 3: Didn’t have time to go to the carwash today, will have to ask later.
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In my state you’re legally required to remove the snow from your car before driving, because it’s a danger to the people around you. So I think it’s rude.
This.
You shouldn’t set off with snow or frozen chunks still left on your car. If you brake and it slides forward it can obscure your view, or when you get up to highway speeds it can fly off and damage whoever is behind you.
Please be considerate of others and don’t do it :)
I’ve laughed a number of times watching a car stop at a light or stop sign only to have the entire contents of their snow covered roof slide down the windshield completely obscuring their view. Like had to put flashers on and get out to clean.
As a sidenote to things flying off, if you're in an area that's had snow, ice, or even just freezing temps, stay far back from any semis pulling a trailer. Guarantee that they don't get up there to remove what's there, and large chunks of ice can not only do damage to a following car, it could be lethal. It is absolutely the responsibility and even maybe the legality of the truck driver, but that doesn't help the dead.
I passed a police car on the interstate a few weeks ago in Kentucky that had its windshield smashed out by snow/ice flying off the top of a semi. The amount of damage was impressive and scary.
As a semi driver, I can confirm that pretty much everything to do with the vehicle is legally the driver’s responsibility, including times when it’s unreasonable. Snow and ice on top of the vehicle is one of them. Yes, I know how this sounds but those trailers we pull don’t come with ladders or anything and we commonly have to park up in the middle of nowhere, so also consider it from the angle of “How the fuck do I get up there to get rid of sheet ice?”
Lazy
Less rude and more potentially dangerous tbh. The metal of the roof will conduct just enough heat to melt the snow into a thin sheet of water and the second you stop or slow down a little too hard all of the snow on your roof is now obstructing your front view. For the sake of yourself and everyone else you share the road with please brush off any significant snow on top of your vehicle before you start moving
I can remove a lot of the snow before driving, but it is difficult to get it all off. The carwash is right down the street from me so the snow melting and falling off at low speed in transit is not likely.
Assuming it is safe and not rude to get to the carwash, is it ok to go through with snow snow still on the vehicle?
The people in this thread are either misunderstanding you (thinking you have a big 8" slab of snow on your roof) or are unfamiliar with regularly snowy places, or are completely unhinged. That, or I misunderstand and you are talking about driving with inches of snow on your roof, in which case, yeah brush off what you can before driving.
But I get it, especially when it gets a bit warmer and the snow kinda melts a bit and gets icy and sticks.
The hot water will melt the snow and ice, don’t worry. The car wash deals with ice chunks from wheel wells all the time. Its just more water and road grime.
Thanks, yeah, that makes sense.
If you’ve removed 95% of the snow and it’s just the ice left then yeah you’re pretty fine to drive.
The car wash should have heated water which should melt the ice/remaining snow pretty quickly as long as it’s indoors.
Yeah that’s what I experienced, and the people out front use the spray to dislodge any chunks holding on.
Ahh okay yeah if you just have like a little snow on top after you’ve brushed it then thats nothing to worry about. The car wash might have just been trying to get at the dirt underneath the ice and thats why they took more time
As others have said: the rude part is driving with snow on your car in the first place. It can be dangerous to others.
I think it’s rude to drive around without removing the snow from your car to begin with.
I think it’s illegal in most states.
If definitely is in the state of social awareness.
op is using piefed, they’re probably canadian. it’s also illegal here tbf
It’s definitely a bit lazy. But everyone is allowed to be lazy sometimes. Or maybe you’re short, I guess, and legitimately can’t get to the top of your car.
The real question is: how well did you tip? People in these types of service jobs have an easier time doing that sort of thing if they get something extra out of it.
I didn’t realize this was a tipped position… The carwash is very expensive already :/
In the US it is absolutely a tipped position, and has been for decades.
Car wash? I’ve never heard of that and there’s never even an option to tip. You pay list price ahead of time, then when they’re done you drive away.
It’s probably different if you get your car detailed, but that’s already not something I’m willing to pay for
I'm a middle-aged American and I have never heard of or seen anyone tip at a car wash. For car detailing, absolutely but not for going through an automated car wash where the employee serves mostly as an attendant to make sure the driver going through doesn't screw things up.
Oh, well it definitely is, at least in the US. They’re not getting paid below minimum like waiters are, but tipping is still customary. Normally it’s only the ones with the towels on the other end getting tipped, though. I always assumed that they all split the tips equally, but I guess I don’t know.
If I were taking a car there knowing it needed extra work on the front end, I definitely would bring tips for both ends.
I’ve worked at multiple carwashes with the towel drying service and yeah they all split tips
Ah ok, mine doesn’t have towels.
I don’t know where those people are, but in my state I’ve never heard of that. There’s no tipping option when you pay, no tip jar etc. Not everyone carries cash around.
Yeah I’m new to getting my car washed, but I don’t see any tipping, don’t see a tip jar, etc.
Honestly I have never seen a car wash that isn’t automatic.
If they can clean it easier than you can, that is a good service. But driving there could be risky.
I have, but they’re essentially just pay per use pressure washers.
There's a place I used to pass frequently that has an automated car wash at one side of the road and a manual car wash at the other. In the sense that they have staff there who do all the washing, cleaning and even detailing if you're willing to pay for it.
As far as I know they're not owned by the same people.
By driving down the street before clearing snow you are driving with snow on it. Don’t do that. Not for 500m or 5km.
They need to remove snow because it could clog up the drains etc. at least temporarily and if there’s a lot and water temp is low it can build a dam. If everyone did what you’re proposing it takes a lot longer to prep cars and they’ll need to shovel frequently.
Just scrape your car.
The second part makes sense, but the first part sounds black and white. In reality, extra snow doesn’t fall off going a few blocks down the road at 25 mph. But it will be a hazard if going onto a faster road or longer drive.
Since the car wash is right down the street from you ChatGPT says you should just walk there.
😂😂
It’s so good. www.youtube.com/watch?v=3400S4qMH6o
You are a piece of shit the moment you leave your driveway without cleaning snow off your car.
As someone who used to work carwashes for a few years, I don’t really give a shit, it’s my job and I get paid by the hour. If I wasn’t rinsing off your car I’d be rinsing the next one, and if there wasn’t one to rinse then I’d be cleaning something in the wash bay or something, and tbh I’d rather clean cars than the wash bay.
As a driver, that’s kinda dangerous, even if it’s only for a short distance. It’s only a few seconds to brush off the snow, it takes barely more time than scraping the windshield.
Here’s my routine: with my arm brush off enough snow around the door that I can open it without any falling inside, start the car, turn on defrost, efficiently push snow off the car with broad strokes (I’m not getting every flake, but anything you could make a snowball out of, you know?), scrape windshield and if necessary mirrors and other windows I need to see out of. By now it’s been a couple minutes and you’ve at least given your engine the chance to warm up a little bit, which you should do in the winter anyway.
Not only is it dangerous to leave snow on your vehicle and drive (just running the engine and turning it off can thaw and refreeze into ice chunks), it is in many places illegal to do so. Get a longer snow brush and clear your vehicle properly.
Legality, courtesy and customs aside, I would not risk cracking my windshield/windows by going through a liquid water car wash with anything frozen on my car.
The heat from your defrost is more likely to crack your windshield than their washers. That shit blows out some hot ass air when you have it cranked to full heat. I really doubt the water touching your windshield is warmer than 120f. Probably not even 100f if it’s outside.
If its more work than tip more than usual.
Google a “Sno Brum” and get yourself one.
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I have something like this with soft grips from both sides and a removable scraper. A game changer if you live in snowy areas.
OK cool this is the kind I have. Thanks!
Just buy a leaf blower if you’re that lazy. Works infinitely better and will be cheaper after a year or two of snow.
Plus you can use it to dry your car after washing it in addition to any host of uses.
Leaf blower would never work. A literal broom often doesn’t work.
if the snow can be blown off with a leaf blower, it wasn’t snow that would be any bother to the employee or a hazard to other drivers
it’s ice that’s dangerous to other drivers, and heavy snow/ice that is harder to wash off
If an employee needs to do more work than they normally would, give them a tip and a thank you. Judge tip based on how much effort/time required. If you don't have cash for a tip, clean the car off yourself before going.
I don’t go to sit down restaurants unless I can afford to tip 20%, so I usually don’t. I can afford the monthly membership, but I’ve never seen anyone tip there. Did not expect this question to become a referendum on tipping at carwashes in the USA.
I put in another comment, they have more people scheduled to work the sprayers on busy snowy days. It also moves so fast idk how you are supposed to tip – you don’t really roll down the windows at any point either, or you mess up their process and/or get wet.
Well, the question was if it's rude. Whether or not it's rude depends on whether or not you should be tipping and whether or not you do.
Sounds like you're fine. I would just go, maybe try to chat a bit with the attendants to see if they are miffed for future reference.
Yes, it is. It’s absurdly rude because in order for you to get there, you would’ve had your driven with all that Snow on that car.
And people who drive with a bunch of snow on their car are assholes. So rest assured that today you were that asshole.
You are driving the car though, even if it’s just down the street, that’s not a great move: Knock the snow off before you get onto the road, even if it’s a short trip.
I get most of it off before leaving the driveway.
Ya, you are rude. Don’t do that either. Just stop. Remove the snow before you leave the driveway. It is unsafe for you and everyone around you on the road. Also, in general, yes, making someone do extra work above and beyond what is being offered, at the same price, is a rude thing to do. By your description they “did a lot more work than usual” - did you pay them a lot more money than usual?
Well usually when you go through, the person with the sprayer maybe spritzes the car for a split second, and sends the car through. On the snowy day, the carwash place had two employees stationed there with sprayers, and they were much more thorough spraying the car. That’s why I thought maybe this is something they are prepared for, and factor into the membership.
I pay $35 for unlimited car washes a month, only in the winter, so no I didn’t pay any more. It is kind of a lot, but I do it to try to keep the bottom of my old car from rusting from all the salt. And I count it towards entertainment too because the carwash has lots of colorful lights and stuff, and I listen to Plantasia real loud in the car as I go through.
It seems like you’ve already decided that I’m an asshole, though.
Just clean your damn roof off. It’s not that hard.
This is nostupidquestions, not insulttheOP.
the car wash is automated, it won’t care
it won’t wash your car as well, though
My main goal is to get salt off the bottom.
me reading this thread as a Floridian
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Q: can I go thru the carwash with gators still on the car? :P
The company I work for owns some car washes and I asked some guys. No one said it was rude, but the responses I got were:
“Snow can can cause the brushes to slush up” “If there’s a layer of ice under the snow the brushes can catch” “You’ll get a shitty wash”
Sweet! Thanks for asking! I’m glad it’s not rude, and it sounds like you would want to get as much snow off of the car as is practical before going through to prevent the slush buildup.
I’ve never noticed the brushes catching, but I’ll watch out for it now. I’m not sure I would go through with hard ice on the car. I would probably wait until the temperatures are solidly above freezing if I could.
I’m not concerned with the car looking good as much as I am trying to prevent the bottom from rusting. I should probably get the undercarriage treated or whatever, but I’m pretty inexperienced with car ownership and it is a lot to decide and manage.
The brushes are designed to break away from the rollers, so its unlikely you would notice as the person in the wash since the brush would come free and then be washed off / blown off throughout the wash.
Depending where you live underbody treatments may or may not be a good idea, if they HEAVILY salt the road it can get trapped above the liner and rust the car faster, bur admittedly I’ve only ever had second-hand cars with those treatments so maybe if done early in the car’s life and maintained its a non-issue