what books about personal boundaries do you know that don't mention god?
from vestmoria@linux.community to nostupidquestions@lemmy.world on 24 Aug 12:16
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from vestmoria@linux.community to nostupidquestions@lemmy.world on 24 Aug 12:16
https://linux.community/post/3318755
I need to learn to establish boundaries (work, family…).
I found a book, forgot the doctor’s name but by the third paragraph he started mentioning the christian god.
hard pass. I want to learn about boundaries, not about your god.
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I bet books for children with narcissistic parents might help. Some of those might not be explicitly religious. Sadly I don't have any recommendations
Children of emotionally distant parents there’s also Drama free. My therapist recommended both to me
This could do with a comma somewhere, I think…
Shhhhh I like my run-on sentences.
That’s the whole title 😜
Grammar that doesn’t cause headspins is a personal boundary, right?
“The code is more what you’d call guidelines than actual rules” Captain Barbossa
You may be thinking of Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents. It’s an excellent book, I highly recommend it. It’s super short and taught me SO much about myself and my family.
That’s the one
It’s slightly academic, but check out Eric Berne’s “Games People Play” about Transactional Analysis theory. There’s a short series on YouTube by a user called TherminTrees (a little cheesy and dated looking) that can give you a quick intro if you’re not sure what it’s all about. Its concepts really helped me.
Why do you fear God?
C’mon Flax, we get it, you’re a Christian. OP’s just looking for a secular self-help/psychology book. Do you have a recommendation or not?
Wait, they aren’t joking?
It was a question. Does it matter if the author believes in God?
It’s a question that isn’t relevant to OPs ask here. Do you have a useful book suggestion that presents the topic of boundaries and maintaining them in a secular way? Whether the author believes in a deity or not?
Please don’t feed the trolls
Why do you not respect boundaries?
The boundary being “keep your religious stuff away from me”
Why do you fear Batman?
I don’t stop reading something whenever batman is mentioned
I imagine for OP it was a bit like picking up a salve for a rash in the pharmacy and realizing it says “homeopathic remedy” on the side.
Would you stop reading a self help book that urged you to lean on batman for support?
If there was value in reading batman, sure
“If there was value in reading batman I would stop reading a self help book that told me to lean on batman”.
Maybe you misread something, because your response seems utterly nonsensical.
Boundaries are deeply tied to one's worldview, values, and understanding of human nature. If you reject the idea of a higher power or divine authority, you must still grapple with the question of why boundaries are important and how to justify them.
If not God or a higher power, then what is the ultimate source of value and authority for setting boundaries? Is it simply a matter of personal preference, cultural norms, or social contracts?
If you rely solely on human reason, empathy, and self-interest, you will struggle to establish a consistent moral framework for setting boundaries. For example:
Ultimately, your views on boundaries will depend on how you answer these deeper questions.
In this sense, It seems looking to believe in boundaries without faith (or a deeper philosophical commitment) is indeed doomed to fail, not because faith is required, but because our understanding of boundaries relies on faith and trust.
I know it's not a good answer to the question, but Hopefully my deconstruction helps
So is god (or at least I’m sure you’d agree, the vast majority of gods), so not sure why appealing to a higher power solves this.
The framework is what’s healthy for you and others. Knowing your personal limits and goals. There isn’t some supernatural “boundary dimension” you need to tap into or anything.
This is so unhinged of a response I don’t even know where to attack it. I do everything without faith, I don’t believe in God, no higher power.
It comes down to what I’m willing or not willing to give of myself, and no one should be taking more than that I’m willing to give.
Speaking of boundaries it looks like you need to be able to follow some yourself. This is not your opportunity to proselytize your beliefs.
Faith in others or trust in others has absolutely nothing to do with thinking there’s an invisible, ultra powerful person just chilling somewhere in space just because someone wrote a book about it 2000 years ago.
Is the fear of hell or divine retribution the only thing keeping you from doing things that harm others? Yikes.
I have not read them myself, but Nedra Glover Tawaab’s books come highly recommended: Set Boundaries, Find Peace + the accompanying workbook, and Drama Free (mentioned here already).
I did a Google Books search of Set Boundaries and only got one hit for the word ‘god’, very near the end in what looks like the “Commonly Asked Questions” section. Between that and what I see in the previews (looks quite promising), recommend checking this out to see if it’s useful for you.
I don’t have any book recommendations but I can’t help but feel like the entire approach you’re trying to take might be too over generalized and you’re better off trying to approach each problematic social encounter one by one.
If for example you have family who’s down on their luck and trying to move into your living space despite you not wanting that, you need to consider what their other options are for living alone and if that would result in a quality of life you would be able to accept yourself, and weigh that against your own expectations for how the living situation would pan out in your mind.
Stuff like that family member’s previous behaviour, ability to show gratitude and value you equivalently, the degree to which they are responsible for their current living circumstances, etc, are all important to consider. This is nothing generalized advice about “boundaries” could possibly help with imo.
If on the other hand you’re a woman and have issues with men hitting on you at work, you have a completely different set of considerations you must make, with virtually no overlap with the previous example.
I’ve heard good things about Polysecure. I understand your question doesn’t pertain to non-monogamy, but non-monogamy is an extension of being able to set and respect boundaries yourself rather than simply adopting boundaries that are the default in your community, so maybe it would be helpful?
It’s really good. It’s definitely from a polyamorous perspective, but it’s mostly about attachment styles and boundaries. I feel like it has a lot of good general relationship advice, it just doesn’t assume that you’re only going to have one partner at a time.
I just picked up a book called Unfuck Your Boundaries. It’s written by a trauma therapist but the style, if you can’t guess from the title, is very casual and easy to read. I am still reading it, so I can’t give a full review, but it’s approachable and entertaining while covering the fundamentals.
microcosmpublishing.com/catalog/books/8188
Not strictly about boundaries, but I think you’d like the Evolving Self by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi. It goes a lot into how to consider your priorities in life and what you want to spend your time on