Is anyone NOT steaming their Music?
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What’s the deal? Are people just going to continue to pay a never-ending rising cost of streaming? Surely this model can’t keep up, and I highly doubt people are listening to essentially the diverse catalog of music for that price. I’m willing to bet most people listen to the equivalent of a couple CDs in a month.
Are you guys just gonna keep paying for YouTube music as the price tops to $30 a month? Seems like every week these clowns are raising their prices.
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I am streaming my music, but from my own server at home.
What’s your preferred client? I switched from plexamp to fintunes, but I really hate the app and the lack of functionality.
Plexamp. It does everything I want flawlessly, so I really have no desire to switch.
Yeah, I just switched to Jellyfin because of the Plex updates to their accounts, but I miss Plexamp. I considered running both Jellyfin and Plex just for plexamp, but I’m wary that they might eventually paywall remote audio streaming, too.
Oh, I didn’t even realise music was exempt from those changes. I’m sure glad I got the lifetime pass when it was cheap.
Seconded on Plexamp; there is no other streaming client that will let you play your own music that’s close.
I’ve been using mpd (Music Player Daemon), originally with icecast bc it didn’t have built-in http streaming, but it has for a long time now, 10+ years.
Jellyfin + Symfonium is such a great experience
Jellyfin has pretty good Linux PC clients too. Even the main Jellyfin client works well for music.
Thanks!
I’ve never paid for a streaming service. All my music is on my local device.
Yeah i used to pay for Spotify, then they gave a huge contract to what’s his nuts, now I just have mp3s on my phone
I use spotify and i was very reluctant to start. Eventually i caved because i wanted an algorithm to help me find new music and for the most part spotify does a decent job at that. As things get more expensive it will be one of the first things I’ll cut out.
I stream, but I don’t pay.
I never paid for Spotify, just used the free tier, eventually got fed up with the ads, learned about spotDL and yt-dlp, so now I just listen to mp3s from my phone
I steam it because ironing melts the vinyl.
It’s also the only cooking method that preserves nutrients in the groovy basslines
Do you only use Monster steamers? Gold plated to transfer the steam without losing the lower frequencies?
Monster uses Ultra Premium Distilled Hydrofluid in their steamers, and no other brand comes close. If you’re not using a Monster steamer, you are losing fidelity.
After steaming I compress the tracks into a purée with 192 kilograms of olive oil. Good omega-3kHz.
You heathen! Compression wreaks havoc on the mid-tones, even if it’s the Virgin cold press with no steaming!
ahem
It’s an Albany expression.
I listen to my personal collection most of the time. I use streaming to keep track of new artists, but I download things I like rather than keep streaming them.
Cheaper than buying for me, I on avarage would spend up to 6-7 times more on physical a month.
I used to move around a huge library of mp3s. I just can’t be bothered anymore and spotify does a reasonable job for a reasonable price.
If only could easily access most movies and TV with one subscription. But anyway this was about music.
Price has gone up 30% in 10 years or whatever since I started. But then so has every fucking thing else.
Fwiw, a self hosted wireguard gets you easy access to that large library wherever you are 😉
I mostly listen to music when I’m driving and 4G connection is spotty as soon as you’re outside of town, so I’m still copying the files around. If spotify pisses me off I’ll probably make a media player that syncs mp3s over a vpn. If there is not one already.
i pay for tidal, but use streamrip, lidarr and navidrome as my own music media server stack, and stream from there
Tidal hasn’t been raising prices yet
I also use Tidal, their recommendations aren’t as good as spotify, but they also don’t pay Joe Rogan. Also I did a sound quality comparison between the two and most of Tidal’s audio were better. Though every once in a while I run into a weird quality song.
For all you spotify peeps that don’t want to feed the fascist machine, checkout Tidal or Qobuz. You can use the service called tunemymusic to transfer your playlists. One month was like $5.
I feel like Spotify’s recommendations have seriously gone downhill in the last two or three years. Most of the new music I actually like I’ve found in music comms on Lemmy
Interesting. I like a pretty niche style of music and I feel like when they make suggestions after the end of playlists were regularly good enough to get added to the seeding playlists.
YouTube Music has only been raising prices as much as Tidal (and everything except Spotify and Deezer), too; I'm not sure what OP is on about the price.
I don’t listen to music. There’s literally no music that I enjoy enough to choose to listen to it. I’m pretty sure there’s something broken in my brain.
What a fascinating quirk. Do you ever get ear worms? Are you just generally indifferent or do you dislike music?
Musical anhedonia I think? I’m usually indifferent, I dislike some music. Ear worms are very rare. I generally prefer spoken word when I want to listen to things: stand-up comedy, podcasts, audio books etc.
It’s usually…fine if I hear music, I just don’t go out of my way to find it or anything.
I steam it because its healthier.
I ended up writing a super janky python script to play my music from my terminal. All of it is stored locally, including lyrics.
I just have a personal collection on my server and stream it with wireguard and symfonium
I have a big-ass folder of mp3s that gets synchronised around via Syncthing. My mp3s mostly come from CDs I’ve bought and ripped.
Never paid for streaming. Usually buy music and download the files to play on my computer or stream them from the computer to my phone or wherever. Mainly have been buying lossless .flac music files from Bandcamp.
I still occasionally pick up CD’s, as I do for blurays… I’ll check out charity shops if I pass them, go to car boots… it’s why I keep an old BDrom in my server, so I can rip the files from them, convert and have them available to stream around the house.
Bandcamp is the way if you’re into any smaller genre of music.
No, I have to own my music if I’m going to enjoy it; the thought of a company being able to take away music that I love takes away the enjoyment. I need at least the files and the backups under my control. It’s not even about price, I would still buy CDs and rip them if that was the only way.
I only listen to music locally, i don’t even use self hosted services. Musicolet is the perfect musicplayer. My collection is both purchased bandcamp music and music downloaded using spot-dl. As hip hop being the dominent genre i listen to it easy to discover new artists just by finding features
I do not stream. I have over 6K in my MP3 collection. I’ve never used a music streaming service.
I’ll pay for as long as it’s worth it, and Spotify is worth every cent even though I have hundreds of gigs of music available on my plex server.
I typically buy music , most often from Bandcamp. I figure $10/mo gets me one or two albums I can keep forever. I tend to be more depth-first with music, where I get really into a band for a little while then move on, so this works for me.
In Poland streaming costs next to nothing, at least on Tidal. I'm regularly using radios and generated playlists containing music I don't have in my collection, so it's definitely cheaper than buying every album
I was using tidal for about a year but I just got really frustrated when my account got lost/interrupted when I updated my phone. I may go back for music discovery and playlists. However right now (and I plan for at least a few more months) I’m going to spend the money on band camp.
I plan to self-host a music server with music ripped from CDs, torrented and bought from Bandcamp and go back to listening to radio. We have plenty of good radio stations here.
My music taste is pretty narrow and my music library is small (<800 songs). Buy my music on Band camp, then stream from Jellyfin. I wouldn’t ever pay for streaming. If I want to go through new music then I use a more targeted online radio (Jango is free and good,or YouTube is good enough for sampling).
It surprises me that people want to stream such a large amount. Do people just listen to random tunes? Happy to listen to anything? It would annoy me to try to recreate my selective music taste in an ocean of music like Spotify.
There is a lot of great music that I've never heard. (there is even more bad "music") Once in a while I want to hear something different, and streaming does that for me. Not well, but I have a hard time finding something better.
I do use a local collection, but where are you seeing prices trending towards $30?
Look I know Bandcamp got a bad rap for being bought and sold a few times but they still have Bandcamp Fridays and that coupled with my own streaming server at home seems like the ticket to me.
It’s pretty cheap in the third world👍
Fuck streaming. All I need is my local library and an .mp3 player with tactile controls.
I do not understand how people are OK with being reliant on some other service to listen to their music, and how they’re OK with having to deal with a touchscreen if they want to skip tracks or otherwise navigate the library. Not to mention that they don’t even have full control over their playlists, or that songs can disappear…
Conversely, with a dedicated player and knowledge of your own library, you can skip between albums with your eyes closed, and you never have to worry about losing a playlist or song.
I buy my music from iTunes, I also buy my audiobooks from Apple Books.
I do not rent my music library.
If I go into deep depression I don’t want to have to worry about having to keep paying to access my music, same with my audiobooks.
I still use soulseek lol
I don’t stream very often, when I do I use Apple Music because I have the discounted package subscription. Even then, I typically only stream specific punk playlists. Otherwise, I listen to the MP3s I ripped from my CDs or downloaded 20 years ago.
I also usually listen to the radio in the car. A local station plays a lot of the stuff I like (Green Day, Social Distortion, Ramones etc) and mixes in new stuff. Plus, I live so close to the southern US border, sometimes they throw in some local Mexican rock band.
I stream music via my own server. I use navidrome. I use their Web UI for PC and then symfonium for mobile.
But yeah you’re right, it’s cheaper for me to buy a few CDs every now and again than pay a subscription
My tidal is $13, but I also listen locally on my mp3 player.
Very infrequently stream. I buy vinyl and bandcamp.
I don’t understand why you would even stream anything at all. You don’t even need a separate device nowadays to carry around a very large library of music (mps3 or even flacs).
I listen to music on multiple devices and don’t want to deal with syncing files and playlists between them.
Also my library is currently 900GB, which would take up almost all the storage on my laptop and I’d have to buy a 1TB SD card to be able to fit it on my phone. Also the library will continue to grow, so this is just not viable.
Much easier to stream it.
Yeah, the benefit to streaming is that you can have much larger libraries. I have +5000 songs on my most commonly played lists, and that’s not even my full library. My devices are already full enough with things like game files (emulators), video files (locally downloaded from my Plex/Jellyfin server so I don’t have to stream video on the shitty work WiFi), and videos/photos from daily life. If I can store my music elsewhere, of course I’m going to do so. I’ll keep one or two common playlists automatically downloaded, but the rest gets streamed.
Yup. I’ve given my plexamp app 60GB of cache space, so hundreds of recently listened-to songs (which is enough for my common playlists) will be on local storage.
It’s really the best of both worlds.
I sync my music to my phone from my home server.
Do you do an automatic sync or manual drag and drop?
I use syncthing for my pictures from my phone to my server and I keep saying I will do the opposite for my music but I have not gotten it organized/tagged well enough yet and I keep putting it off.
We are stuck in the same spot. Musicbrainz Picard might help? I checked it out but metal genre tags range from simple to way too specific to poorly categorized. Might help you get the tagging done at least.
Picard works well, I played around with it but it is still a bit tedious.
I have Plex so it automatically copies selected playlists and such to my phone. Going to be switching to Jellyfin soon though but I’m guessing it has a similar feature.
I use SyncThing as well to keep certain files and such synced from my server, phone, and tablet. I also sync pictures and video to my server from my phone and tablet.
Does plex pull the playlist data and still stream the music or does it actually make a duplicate copy of the music files on your phone?
I kind of treat my phone as a pseudo backup of my pictures and music so I keep a full local copy on it.
It actually copies the music to the phone, but it’s an automatic caching. As far as I’m aware you can’t access the files directly and the app will handle refreshing/replacing the cache when it gets full. You absolutely shouldn’t use it as a backup of any kind.
edit: never mind, you can also properly download playlists/albums independently from the cache. TIL
It actually makes a copy on my phone of both the Playlist and Music it references.
However, Plex seems to be moving towards things other than local media so you may want to avoid it. The recent app design changes are putting streaming media and corporate profits ahead of the actual users. That is why I am looking to switch to Jellyfin.
Im using emby now for my main media hosing program but I don’t really like it or plex for music. On my mobile I use GoneMad but it doesn’t sync on its own.
I came across Symfonium last night and it looks like it will be a good alternative to plexamp and it’s supposed to work with multiple servers. I’ve used plex for around 10 years and have had a lifetime plexpass for nearly as long. The recent changes they have made pushing streaming first is the main reason why i am working to switch to something else.
I have never used any streaming.
I rip my music off Spotify via a 3rd party site or download torrents then copy to USBs for the car. I have never streamed music.
I roast mine
Yes, I prefer to stir fry mine.
I only buy music on physical media. It’s the only way I can be sure that I really own it.
I’m listening to YouTube music with addblock. Which I am surprised isn’t a more common setup because it’s zero effort.
And a lot of burned CD of YouTube to MP3 because my car still has its 2000s radio player which doesn’t have USB.
I pay for tidal so I have something in the car and while I'm working, but most of my music listening is vinyl.
I used to use Spotify, but then I learned that YouTube premium cost the same amount, and came with access to YouTube music, so I switched. Got tired of playing YouTube ad blocking whack-a-mole.
If Google starts enshittifying Premium too much, I’ll go back to sailing the high seas for stuff I’m not going to/can’t get on vinyl.
My dad pays for the family Spotify subscription. lol
I don't stream music. Mostly listen to rips of all the CDs I collected over the decades plus stuff I saved over the years in the spirit of recording music off the radio, which is perfectly legal.
It means I don't really have much new music, but never was super excited about music when it is new. The benefit of being behind the curve is the crap gets filtered out!
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You call it steamed music, despite the fact that it is obviously grilled.
I pay for a tidal family account and im pretty sure im the only one actually downloading music, ill probably stop paying again once it hits $20/mo for the family plan but it was mainly a means to an end to get my other family members off Spotify.
Last i checked i was up to 70k songs, my collection is also all shared on funkwhale and soulseek.
I have all 140gb of music I have ever loved enough to keep a copy, I have it on my microSD card on my phone (and backed up)
Samesies! If I find new music I like, I get it on CD whenever possible and rip that.
I pay for Tidal (afaik the best music streaming service) and keep a tidy vinyl collection. Vinyl because it’s the coziest way to listen to music and my girlfriend likes reading the lyrics from the inserts. CD unfortunately had to go with the last move.
I have my favourite bands and classics local (about 18k files), but regulary stream to get to know new bands to listen to. Combining the two makes my library grow (͡⎚◡͡⎚)
I prefer my music deep fried.
You lose all the ear-vitamins that way.
Bandcamp
yes, me
I stream it from my Plex server.
I mostly listen to MiniDiscs.
I like to air fry mine, gives it a nice crunchy sound 👌🏻
I use an air fryer
No actually I’ve used physical media since the 90s and haven’t had a reason to change
Sitting at ~200 GB music tracks , OuterTune for free YT music for discovery . Don’t (ever plan to )?own physical media . Never (paid for|used other) streaming services
OuterTune is nice, thanks for the tip. I thought for a second it was going to have my number one desired feature for a YouTube front end: playlist folders, but alas it's all just a list once again.
Is the local view missing sort by artist and album or am I missing something?
Don’t see option to sort by artist AND album , just artist OR album
A while ago I got tired of tracks going missing from my playlists because of stuff being removed from Spotify so I started buying everything on Bandcamp and then playing it from my jellyfin using finamp.
I use Qobuz, as I understand it pays the most to the artists. It’s $11/month CAD, which is still doable for me. Not sure if it’s “worth it” in the long term scope of things, but monthly I listen to music from a hundred or so albums (not every track from every album, so it’s hard to estimate what it would otherwise cost to buy).
I wouldn’t pay that much to Spotify or Google, though. Fuck them.
My Compact Discs (CDs) and my compact disc players both still work fine.
Occasional visits to thrift shops have expanded my collection at very affordable prices.
The variety of music I enjoy is unimpressive but steady.
But the load times are very nice, and the network resilience is unmatched.
Idk, my wife pays for it so I use it. Easier to use the family subscription then continue sailing the seas. If the price gets too much I’ll take the helm back as captain of entertainment.
Welcome sailor!
I ended up retrofitting a steamer into an old jukebox so that I can steam my entire library at once. Best way I’ve found to keep my music collection fresh.
I have never paid to stream music. I grew up with dial-up and terrible cell reception making torrenting a chore (shout-out leaving Limewire up overnight for one song) and streaming a total non-starter. In high school I checked out stacks and stacks of CDs from the library to rip onto my computer.
With the help of better internet I was able to access torrenting and luckily my special interest in the metal genre kept me off the ISP radar though I use a VPN nowadays. You may be able to find a tracker specialized in a specific music taste - depending on your attitude towards torrenting. I do my best to recompense the bands via merch (especially vinyl) and concert ticket sales.
What? I pay $23 USD for YouTube Premium Family Plan, which includes ad free video and YouTube Music for 4 people. Still pretty reasonable IMO, never going back to Spotify that's for sure, I have thought about trying Qobuz for higher quality, but the price increase across my family plus the fact that I never ever want to watch ads on YouTube makes it a difficult value prop, I'd probably rather buy one album a month from BandCamp.
Same here. Split between 5 people it’s very reasonable. This is the one thing I’m actually afraid to touch when it comes to degoogling
Most times I listen to records.
For digital music, I have a local collection. I copy chunks of it to my phone periodically for remote listening.
Making people pay over and over again for the same product is the greatest trick businesses ever pulled.
I use Spotify because someone in the family got a family plan. I probably have about 80 different songs I listen to over and over in a month, with randomly listening into other playlists. I keep my playlists “offline” on Spotify, so not really streaming much either. Probably about 700-1000 songs I keep available offline.
For the most part, majority of my music is locally stored across my phone, desktop, and laptop. I’ve got a small growing collection of CDs as well.
For a bunch of stuff I listen to ( mainly vocaloid in this case ), I cannot get an official CD, so best I can do is download them off yt.
I get my music from KCRW.
I do donate, but it’s not necessary if you can’t afford to.
I used spotify for a few months about 10 years ago until they doubled their price and removed songs that I had saved in playlists. Since then I haven’t bothered with streaming.
I stream, dirt cheap, as part of a Spotify family plan. €4/month, so I don’t feel like figuring something else out
Yet another Bandcamp shopper here. I stream from their site to preview albums but then buy my favorites later. DRM-free FLAC files are the best.
And the fact that you can roll up, buy some music, and leave without making any kind of account or anything is just the cherry on top.
I have a streaming service, but most of my music is physical. I have around 800 CDs and a comparable number of records. I also listen to the radio, seeing as how we have an actually great station
I prefer it poached or grilled, but I’ll accept steamed
Deep fried for me. Yes my cholesterol doesn’t like it, but eh…
I use spotify because it’s the only one I know of that
If deezer could geht their act together I’d switch to that, but they limit playlists to 2000 tracks. Buying every single song would be way more expensive than streaming, so I just can’t afford to do anything else.
I like CDs :)
Buy it on Bandcamp, then use Apple’s “iTunes music match” service, $25 a year if I remember right, which allows you to stream anything that you own and have added to iTunes, on any Apple device that has the same iCloud account id as iTunes.
Means that the artists get everything (Bandcamp Friday rules!) except the $25 a year.
I’m old enough to remember buying physical media. I still do that from time to time. For daily use I have a large library of digital copies of music I bought at various stages of my life. Listening to them costs me nothing and I can listen to them as often as I like for the rest of my life. Technology permitting, even my children may continue listening to what I bought last century. Ownership is a great thing.
Saying “old enough to remember buying physical media” makes me feel like one of the ancients.
I mostly use qobuz when out and about and vinyl at home. Music streaming is the one streaming media I don’t find objectionable as a consumer. All the services have pretty much the same catalog so pick based on features. I still buy my favorite albums though so the artist actually gets money.
I don’t stream my music, and only did for a little bit when it was newer and fairly novel. I strongly agree with you, most people don’t listen to diverse enough music that streaming makes sense other than pure convenience. That convenience is clearly all it takes for the majority of people.
i stream youtube music for free with no ads by unofficial apps
YouTube killed mine recently ;-; what do you use?
I buy less physical media because it’s a physical space waste but I do like some vinyl of my absolute favourites.
I buy digital with no DRM like on Bandcamp and make redundant backups. Usually when you buy Vinyl you get the digital version along with it at no extra cost.
That’s thit really. Copy my MP3 and FLAC to phone to play in my car over AUX. At home it’s on my NAS and on Premiumize cloud storage as well which I also use as a debrid service.
I pirate as well, but I try not to for independent nobody (poor) artists. I don’t judge others it’s just my personal preference.
I have all my music on a nas with plex so I can stream it from there. Home assistant and Music assistant allow me to play it to any room in the house. Mobile data is expensive in NZ though so I have a terabyte of sd storage in my phone and in the car head unit with music from band camp, ripped cds, ripped vinyl, dj sets from YouTube and mix cloud.
i keep my favourite music on my phone and use newpipe for everything else, absolutely fucking baffles me that most people keep paying for streaming services
yeah im gonna keep paying for it. idk what i would do without it because my library on spotify is so incredibly vast that there is no way i can get all of it downloaded onto my phone. just no way. unless theres like a 12 tb sd card
If my phone had 2+TB of storage, I might play it locally.
But I also don’t need to pay a service. I use my own media server at home to connect to.
Music doesn’t take that much storage? I download songs I listen to on Invidious / yt-dlp and a 3 minute song ranges from about 2 to 5 megabytes.
It does when you have fucktons of songs. My music collection on the media box is almost 2TB.
I’m looking to move away from spotify by the end of the year. I’m not totally sure what I’m gonna do. Maybe buy a radio and put it on my desk :p
I did a bit of research on that, and I’d personally use something else like Wavlake for streaming (my producer, Neigsendoig, is on there with his music and podcast). As for non-streaming things, we’ve both been thinking of getting something like an iPod 5th Generation and slapping Rockbox on it.
don’t laugh but I am one of the 5 people on earth who bought a zune and I’d totally like to have one again sometimes, but I could also put the music on my phone soooo i donno if it’s worth it!
I hadn’t heard of the Zune much, but I’d imagine the design is cool, but the firmware on it might not be the best.
I gave up Spotify when the online safety act came in. I store my music locally on my computer. Ideally, I’d like something like jellyfin but I don’t really want to expose anything to the internet right now.
I acquired a lot of my music from bandcamp and
piracyCOMPLETELY LEGAL MEANS.I use tailscale, maybe there’s something I’m not aware of that’s risky, but I assume it’s much safer than port forwarding
Oddly, I’ve just returned to FM radio. I do have a large collection of songs stored locally, but I want to hear new recommendations (and not from an algorithm but from free public radio).
Same but with internet radio. Most big public universities have a radio station, and mirror it on an internet radio stream. I’ve just looked up various universities across the continent and found ones that actually have good human DJs.
Oh yes! That, too. Where I lived previously, I liked to see what LMUs station was playing (Culver City area) and the songs ranged from college punk bands, to classical music, to experimental… music of wailing sounds? My favorite was when it started playing video game remixes just randomly. University radio is wild.
Great time to plug Radio Garden.
IDK how, but just about every radio station you could ask for is on that app - across the globe. Super cool stuff!
Radio Garden is cool as fuck. Also gonna plug Campus FM.
Holy shit, that is so cool
Don't assume I'm one of those people. I only threw down a dollar just to get three months of SiriusXM and I only listen to comedy on it. I have an IPod Touch with music and car manufacturer's suck dick on complicating the idea of plugging in IPod devices and letting them work as normal. No, we're suddenly required to have ApplePlay or Android Auto.
Good luck trying to cancel XM radio 🤣
Um, I have done so successfully?
I’ve been putting music on my Jellyfin server and accessing remotely with tailscale…sooo technically streaming, but also hosting it. Win win?
Same but with Navidrome. Found it much better than Jellyfin.
Haven’t heard of that, what do you like about it?
It is a solution specifically designed for music. Library representation is much more predictable and it’s interface feels very efficient and clean.
It essentially does what you expect from a music streaming service.
Honestly, steaming seems like a waste of time. What if I damage my music? The smell would be awful. Also it gets too noodley for my taste.
It’s digital nowadays, just throw it in some rice
Mmm, steamed hams!
i am streaming music… from a friend’s homelab :3
just to let you know Lemmy is NOT the place to get unbiased results, esp on piracy.
if you really want an answer from the people who pay for a subscription go to a university and walk around with a microphone and iPhone, people will spill their guts out lol
I don’t, I just play the thousands of mp3s I’ve collected over the years.
I usually don’t keep any subscriptions. But after years of ytdlnis and musicolet, I got sick of the poor audio quality and just signed up for a free trial of Tidal. So far the difference in quality is night and day. If someone has a better way to get music than what I’m used to, please lmk
I’ve had tidal for the past few years and I’ll never leave by choice. They even lowered their subscription price last year.
i don’t stream, i buy and play locally; it helps that my apartment wifi is dogshit and keeps dropping, so streaming wouldn’t even be a convenience for me
if it’s on bandcamp, i buy it there. if it’s not on bandcamp, i have other means 😉
I use streaming to discover new music to pirate into my mp3/flac collection.
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I stream from my own library hosted on my fileserver.
I use a random playlist that increases the delay for track repeat plays proportionally to their play count. Albums are added as I find artists or themes I find interesting, movie and game scores are great for adding incidental randomness.
I’ve never payed or had an account on any streaming ‘service’.
All my music lives in a folder called music that gets synced to all my devices.
Don’t ask me how I sync the folder across all my devices thoughEven tho i have a several TBs library I still stream, because I always endup wanting to find and listen to new things that aren’t in my library.
Generally if something is on my library, I’m already tired of it.
So I endup streaming from YouTube music free + unlock origin. If I want to listen to a whole album without having half of it’s songs replaced by a low fidelity music video version I open the album link with mpv or listen to the album from telegram bots like @deezload2bot or @linemusicbot
Yes, streaming, for me, is the gateway to new. I do use Spotify and I’ll say what I’ve said a bajillion times: It has shown me numerous new artists, a good many of which I have given money. It seems like a good deal.
Don’t be ridiculous. Why would I pay for streaming, when there are endless ways to get it for free, without ads?
Yeah I had a carefully curated collection back in the 90s and 2000s, but I don’t see the point of meticulously building playlists anymore when an algorithm can do it for me in an instant.
Only reason why I even still have music on my PC is because I’m a DJ. So I maintain a rotating collection of about 500 tunes in lossless quality, and only because you can’t always rely on streaming for a mobile gig, since wifi and/or cell data isn’t always available. If I could I would just clear up the hard drive space, and only keep the tunes that I absolutely must have in high quality. (And for nostalgia’a sake I still keep a copy of the first two songs I ever downloaded from Napster back in 2000.)
I use bandcamp and buy cheesy jazz records.
I’m streaming, but not paying monthly for it. Look into self hosting. Jellyfin, Navidrome or Plex. The first two are free and open source, but don’t have remote access built in.
Me who pirates all his music:
I’ve been buying and ripping CDs since 2007. I average 8 per year, and it limits my music discovery speed a fair bit - but that’s OK.
When someone suggests a new song/band, I listen on YouTube/Vevo, and put up with the ad. It’s fine. It convinces me whether I want to buy their CD or not most of the time.
I have a bunch of stuff DRM-free and ripped from CDs I’ve bought. I’ve been against drm for a while, just takes practice to maintain the habit
I feel like streaming music isn’t that expensive. Wasn’t music like $1-1.3 before streaming services? If you listen to one new album a month you’ve basically broken even. Tv streaming is a different story
You’re still streaming music?
Just like broccoli.
Get a load of this guy. He still listens to music. 😏
Kinda like that other guy, once I ripped my cd collection to digital, just didn’t even get into streaming.
Still make mixtapes the old fashioned way for my partner (corny lol I know) and I buy the occasional remaster at a local thrift shop, or the old baked out hippie running a music / instrument shop.
It’s an honest joy.
Probably.
Streaming services are very useful and a good model in general. Unfortunately, the leading companies do not yet sufficiently understand how to distribute the monetary gains properly.
For some reason, people still think having a big number on your bank account is a good thing. Money should stream as well.
I never did. I never liked streamimg music that demamds constant internet connection, ads in between, and unability to skip forward unless you’re subscribed.
I stream but from my own server.
I’ve got a collection curated over the last 15 years by my partner with over 40k tracks. I can shuffle and it will play for over 3 months without a repeat.
As a teen I used to pirate it and supplement with the very occasional cd purchase. I felt justified at the time given I did still pay at least sometimes and I couldn’t afford to otherwise. These days, it became so ubiquitous on YouTube that I just never felt the need to buy it or torrent it and the filesharing networks all kinda disappeared anyway.
It’s not exactly ethical since I use adblockers but it’s just there, always instantly available and at zero cost. I’d never use a subscription service, I have no idea how much, if any music I would consume over a fixed period so paying a fixed monthly quantity makes no sense at all.
I guess the issue with this is that it’s hard to discover new music. I guess it’s a little sad but really but truth be told the rate of discovery for me has been significantly curtailed since high school, I guess I was never a connoisseur or great appreciator of music so my imagination in the space was pretty limited to just whatever my friends were listening to.
I don’t stream.
I pirate like many in this thread, but I can’t be arsed to set up a home server for music, especially not one I can connect to outside its local network.
Phones today have more storage than I need, I can load that thing up with all the music I want. If I need extra, there’s SD cards. If I need even more, I can swap out and re-copy from my PC later.
I use Pandora, so far they haven’t fucked me over with crazy price raises. Been using them for yeaaaaaers. They may not have everything, but what they have works for me
No, I am frying my music. It gives the sound a crispier edge.
Well, cooking your music leads to some nice results, too.
What seasonings?
Red hot chilli peppers?
SAULT, and Pepa
You call them steamed jams despite the fact they are obviously grilled
Yeah it keeps the wrinkles out, but I’m in a damp climate. I don’t want mildew.
If by streaming, you mean using a client-server architecture to get a sound signal to the aux port, then yes, I use mpv with pipewire.
Oh and I buy music from GoG and Steam.
I have mp3s and an 800 KB binary that can play them. That’s it.
People massively overcomplicate this.
I buy CDs a lot. I love CDs. I love ripping them.
My problem is that I want to be able to get suggestions for music that I might like based on what I listen to. If I just downloaded music I like I’ll just end up listening to that and nothing else.
So don’t just download music you like, indiscriminately download as much as you can, then you can get suggestions from your self hosted software.
PlexAmp has a decent analyzer and DJ to mix it up and play similar themed songs. I download a shitload then have PlexAmp mix it, just pick a song like on Spotify and it will build out a playlist. Found some decent stuff that way.
I pay for Spotify, price hasn’t raised in years. I pay for a family plan so mother people from my family (that live in different countries) can use it too.
I work on my computer, so I’m usually listening to music all day long, I have multiple playlists I alter depending on my mood, plus several albums as well. So, yeah, I think it’s worth it for me. That being said if they removed the family sharing or increased their price drastically I would definitely consider alternatives.
pirate .flac files
how do you get flacs? I can only ever find mp3s
Bandcamp, Qobuz, torrents, and ripping CD’s.
Soulseek.
Yeah no. Vinyl for the win. They steam well too. Makes nice bowls for keys :) EDIT : Keys (not that kind!!) and other things <img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/c9325de6-3906-4d98-bd45-bba59f1d133c.jpeg">
Daaaaaaammmmnnnn. That’s a lot of vinyl. Lovely 😍
Bowls for keys…at your vinyl listening swingers parties?
Didn’t get that reference. Had to look it up, and, ohh dear me, NO!! 😂 😂
Yep I’m not streaming - waste of mobile data
Well of course not. I don’t have physical discs or a steamer so steaming them is a bit difficult
Jokes aside, I have literally never used music streaming… First of all I don’t listen to that much music. Even when I did, I tried Soundcloud for a bit but then quickly switched over to Bandcamp. I’m not that big on having to listen to the latest music and I don’t like mainstream stuff, so YouTube is sufficient for discovery for now
I’m not very big on audio quality so I mostly just do yt-dlp these days on songs that I listen a lot… I could go back to Bandcamp (or pirate and leave personal donations) if I ever become an audiophile, but realistically a lot of musicians I listen to are financially stable if not wealthier than me (most of them probably have stable contracts from large gaming companies) so I don’t see a lot of point…
I “acquire” my music as flac files, and usually listen to them on my iPod.
I have a Spotify account, but I rip them from there. Up to 400k songs now. I use PlexAmp to stream to my devices.
I wish I knew how to do this!
wish no more! - github.com/justin025/onthespot/releases/…/v1.1.2
join the discord for support, but i’ve been using versions of this for almost 2 years, before Justin forked it when the previous developer disappeared.
What’s your process to rip from Spotify? Do you get full quality?
i get 320, which is fine for me. i don’t use studio headphones or anything like that. just my phone, room speakers, etc. i can’t hear anything that 320 is missing. you can download in flac, and github.com/justin025/onthespot/releases/…/v1.1.2 supports deezer, apple, tidal, etc. i share it all on soulseek and get missing tracks from there as well. spotify doesn’t have everything.
lucida.to is good
I stream my music files from my personal server. I also use an mp3 player when I know I’ll be offline for an extended period.
Streaming music never appealed to me. 1TB sd card in my phone with my library synced to it.
I wish companies would go back to putting SD card slots in all the phones again
Same! Although still on my 512GB SD card but I’ll have to upgrade to 1TB soon at this rate lol
Also thank goodness 2TB SD cards came onto market not long ago, I’ll not run out of options anytime soon lol
Big benefit to me is discovering new artists and songs. Without that, I’d be missing a Lot of amazing stuff.
You call them “steamed jams” despite the fact you are obviously not billed?
I canceled spotify 2 yrs ago and switched to qobuz, music collection of 1500 songs. Some bought digitally, most ripped from cds. Happy as a clam!
500gb mp3 drive i have never streamed shit.
I prefer mine broiled.
But I’ve also never paid for a music service.
I still rip music to MP3s.
I’m just gonna paste a response I had to another similar post a while back:
Not who you asked, but I can tell you where I’m at with that. My primary listening is on an mp3 player, and I also use a home server for listening on speakers/tv. Switching to a separate device used only for music has made my listening far more deliberate. When I pick up the player, I’m making a point to listen to music, not just have it on in the background like I used to. It’s also a pain in the ass (comparitively) to make playlists on it (I purposely chose a scroll-wheel style and no touch screen) so I’m listening to a lot of full albums now, which I never really did before, exposing me to a lot more than I used to since I don’t just throw the song or two I like on a playlist and leave the rest.
There’s been an interesting side effect that I didn’t expect: Being more deliberate with my listening has sharpened my ear to music, I hear music in movies and shows in a way I never used to, I’m beginning to recognize voices and band styles by ear, I actually focus on music now instead of it just being part of the background. As such, I find a lot of new music these days by looking up songs from movies and tv. For example, the most recent:
I completely devoured the Sinners soundtrack. (Ludwig Göransson is a fave and I’ve always been a fan of Buddy Guy)
Watching Dope Thief, I realized I never skipped the intro. Got me hooked on Little Simz
James Gunn has some great taste. Beyond season 1 of Peacemaker, Season 2 has already got me absolutely loving Foxy Shazam, and after the latest ep I’ve been getting into Hardcore Superstar.
Strangely enough, Rick and Morty has some bangers in the later seasons, and got me listening to stuff I never would have like Kishi Bashi.
Additionally, there’s the news. I’ve been listening to Bob Vylan and Kneecap, and only heard of them because they stood up to support Palestinians.
Not only has my listening become more deliberate, but my sourcing of new music has as well. No longer relying on an algorithm to do the work for me has allowed me to hone a new skill and learn how to find new music myself.
In order of preference:
Streaming services are evil and i wish for them to fail.…but more seriously – I get why streaming services exist. Although I will almost certainly will never use one in my life, in principle it’s fine, I get the point. When I’m online I’m actually OK to stream from an indie radio (eg. soma.fm) or from a RSS based podcast player (eg. Antenna).The problem i have is that, AFAIK, the business models are almost always abusive and hostile to both user and the artist. Some kind of federated system could work better, but I’m not sure it’s doable. As it is, I’m afraid this middle man model just won’t ever work properly without heavy regulation – which is kind of a problem in the globalized world.
This is basically my strategy too. Though, I tend to buy from Bandcamp first and foremost. I like that most of the time if I buy physical media (either vinyl or CD) on Bandcamp it comes with a digital download.
I was disappointed that Bandcamp was bought by a company a few years back, but nothing has changed… Yet.
This person has hit the nail on the head. Own the music.
Too bad we can’t really do that with movies & series. Cinema aside, I basically start at step 4.
I don’t get it either. I have a couple of friends who pay for music streaming just to listen for the SAME music over and over. They don’t even make use of those so called recommendation algorithms or so. I tried to guide them into putting the music they like into their phones for offline listening, but they ignored me. I guess some people just have some sort of love for corporations.
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I’m old. I have this one in my drawer. At some point I might start using it again and leave phone at home.
I used my old android phone with 512 card. Mp3 dedicated devices today are pretty shit unless you spring for $200+ ones. I tried 2 of the $50 ones from Amazon, was better with an old ass iphone 5c I found in a drawer. Then you can use any audio app to play your files. At the time I used media monkey before I setup my PlexAmp server. Even then you can download massive playlists locally, no need to stream it, similar to old school iTunes.
It’s iriver e100 it has sd card, it can also play videos www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVQfL3h6Fqw
People pay to stream music?
I thought most people just put up with ads, or get the revanced version of the app with ads removed.
Then you have the smaller group that downloads off of any good distribution site, and then the small minority of music archive torrentors.
I think I only ever met one person who actually paid for youtube premium, but my sample size is probably too small.
I either buy mp3 or download from youtube.
gamepass to 30usd/month
a lot of microshit simp are in shambles and i bet price will go up again next year.
I buy physical copies if available, usually only if available in a local store or directly from their bandcamp or a show, otherwise yarr matey.
Well I used Spotify in the past but prices are increasing over here so canceled that a long time ago. Now I’m using Symfonium with my Navidrome server manage my local library of songs. Now I just download them to the devices for offline listening.
I never had a spotify anccount and I’m still listening to the music I collected 20 years ago.
My collection of records, cassettes and CDs have come out of storage and I started buying new ones. I might even start making mix tapes again.
This is when having a high-end 1989 Technics cassette deck in your 1986 VW Jetta Carat comes in really handy.
I have a Spotify account, formerly a Tidal account, briefly a Deezer account and I’m still listening to music I collected 25 years ago, I’m also listening to an absolute ton of new music I would never have found without Spotify,
If I was better financially I would support artists more directly, but the service is good (For my purposes)
Some bands I have found through Spotify,
Ancients.
Kanaan.
Slomosa.
Reign Wolf.
Tiger Cub.
Harold’s Last Chance.
Teen Jesus and the Jean Teasers.
Ghost.
Lüt.
Sludge Mother.
Pist Idiots.
Velvet Two Stripes.
Goodbye June.
Be’lakor.
Green Leaf.
Psychedelic Witchcraft.
Psychedelic Porn Crumpets.
Spirit Box.
Kira Mac.
The Ocean.
Whitechapel.
Gazoline.
And many more
Kettle broke, and it was damaging the vinyl anyway.
I’m not, and I’ve enjoyed the process of finding my own music again. I started buying music CDs; there’s a used bookstore near me with a giant shelf of CDs for $1 each. I set up a music server (I chose Funkwhale, although Navidrome seems to be the more popular choice) that I upload everything to, so I can still stream things, it’s just from my own server. And I bought an MP3 player.
i’ve gotten some cooked mp3s before. i don’t know if they got that way through steaming or what but i did need to uncook them before i eventually burned them 🤔
I buy on Bandcamp and put the FLACs on my Plex server, so I guess I’m technically streaming them, but not for a Spotify fee.
I’ve cancelled all my streaming services. Technically I stream my Bandcamp collection, but I still bought it so it’s somewhat a different model.
The recent wave of artists taking their music off Spotify and how much AI is plaguing that app made me pull the plug.
Huh. I get my money’s worth and more from streaming, have found so much music I like, and before streaming I listened to the radio (we have good community radio here, I still do listen to the radio and go to live shows) and went to concerts but didn’t buy music because I despaired of ever building or organizing the sort of collection that would contain even close to the amount of music I want to listen to.
If streaming disappeared tomorrow, what I’d save wouldn’t pay for even one concert a month.
I really, really use the heck out of it, my whole family does.
I’ve gone back to sailing the high seas and don’t regret it. Cost efficient, superior quality, more control and a better service overall. If I do buy music from an artist that actually deserves it, it’s on Bandcamp. I’ve been looking for a physical/analog setup and make copies of those. I’m also learning how to self-host so I can setup a Navidrome server for seamless transition from device to device.
Steaming seems a bit too extreme… it might damage or peel off the labels, or even damage the discs themselves, depending on the temperature (and I don’t want to see what it’d do to tape!).
Personally I’ve always found a microfiber cloth to be sufficient.
Hah! I didn’t even notice the missing r, even after seeing the more recent saute joke from someone else. N1
Wife kicked me off our joined Spotify membership (we both agreed to her using student discount for her account) so I’ve setup plexamp for my albums. I mean technically streaming but self-hosted.
Has android auto, and the in app interface is reasonable.
Its kind of nice, just to play an album you own vs having a neverending list of songs you might enjoy.
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Yeah my car is filthy 😇
I love the DJ function on Plexamp!
Yes.
I stream but from my own server.
I have my NAS on a private VPN running on my own server. The NAS have my music (roughly 2/3 from physical media, 1/3 from various DRM-free source). I use it with a simple mobile app (CloudBeat) that can work in both online and offline mode where you can download what you want ahead of time by ticking a checkbox.
It doesn’t cost much: the VPN server do other stuff and is cheap to begin with, the NAS have some maintenance cost for storage, but that’s like a drive every two years top, content never change of disappear, it doesn’t slurp my bandwidth constantly, etc.
Even factoring the cost of a separate backup, since the whole setup store a bunch of other stuff and services, it’s probably more cost efficient too, if you don’t consider the initial setup cost.
And if needed, I can “lift” some content from streaming services too and put them there.
The only reason paying for a streaming service still exist is convenience, at the cost of bending over whatever craziness they come up with.
My MP3s have moved from 1 device to another. I paid for the physical copies years ago (also some friends “shared” other songs), and I still only buy MP3s.
Iv had a single subscription for like a decade. YouTube red or premium or what the fuck ever it’s called.
Cost me 7.99 I stream my music from YouTube.
The moment YouTube stops grandfathering me in is the moment I go right back to just pirating everything. They have threatened to raise the praise for grandfathered plans a few times and never went though with it. They have threatened to add ads, or change features and never went though with it.
8 dollars is entirely an acceptable price for functionally unlimited music and TV.
I use the service so I pay for the service. It’s convenient, functional and there are no ads.
Works on my PC, phone and while I’m in the car with no fiddling.
If I had to pick a service to use to today I would just go with Bandcamp or pirate the fuck out of everything.
Seriously what Gabe said decades ago was turn then and now. Piracy is a service problem. A affordable, fair and customer friendly service will be worth paying for. Companies just keep making shit worse then what the value prop is.
And frankly I would spend like 40 bucks a month on CDs, so 8 bucks is perfectly acceptable. And I don’t personally see any fucking reason to own a copy of my music. That just cost storage space.
I keep a simple txt file with a list of all the songs and albums I enjoy the most so if I need to I can easily just go get a copy of them when and if I need to. And not waste space on meaningless files that I have on demand access too.
And reading that was when I stopped moving the cursor to the upvote arrow. ;-)
But that’s fine, so long as when you own nothing, you’re happy. ;-) /s
I see owning a copy of arts as performing part of a duty to the future, increasing the resilience against the book burners and history re-writers.
I still have an mp3 collection. Mainly because I like a lot of obscure artists you can’t find in streaming services and I despise algorithm recommendations. I never liked fucking youtube because they always would put a lot of useless trash in the recommendations. So I shut down recommendation history, I stay away from their music services and I’m never giving them a single penny. I still buy CD’s whenever I can, hey at least a CD is proof I’m listening to a real musician and not some AI slop.
For the most part I’ve always hated music streaming services because they feel very insular. There is no sense of fandom and community by design. I knew shit was going to get bad when you tube shut down the comments on music tracks. These “services” are designed to wall in the user and keep them hooked to the fucking algorithm; That betrays the spirit of musical community I was used to. I feel tech companies ruined the joy of collecting music and I am glad piracy is coming back. All of these streaming services can fuck off.
Stored on my PC, rsync to other devices.
I buy my music for download on Bandcamp, Steam and few other places. I listen to it with Jellyfin and Finamp on my mobile (it can store songs locally or stream them from my home NAS)
This is the way
Ive always considered giving money to record companies immoral. When I was young I would download whole albums “for context.” Moving away from tormenting, I just download singles from youtube. I can also download playlists. They just live on my sd chip in my phone
no i am the kind of person who can’t find his music, but when i do find them, i listen to them into the ground, i think my play list is like an hour and a half tops? music falls out of rotation as fast as i add to it. not really streaming capable
Well… is suppose it is a good way to get the wrinkles out… I’ll give it a shot.
It can since it’s much cheaper than video and games thanks to the small file size of songs.
Very few people even know how to put songs on their phone to play locally, imagining trying to teach them how to host their own streaming on their computer.
I stream from my home server. Not sure which side that puts me on. But I don’t use streaming services like Spotify or YT music.
Which reminds me I need to install Navidrome on my server.
No, I saute my music.
I have the music I made on my computer ~ well, technically on my external storage hard drive. And so, I don’t need to stream my music. ;-)
But then, some argue such things as soffmimuhod.bandcamp.com may not even qualify as music.
I listen to the radio.