why are they pushing kpop demon hunters so badly? Who makes money off this new group?
from Nomorereddit@lemmy.today to nostupidquestions@lemmy.world on 30 Nov 05:00
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jeena@piefed.jeena.net on 30 Nov 05:17 next collapse

It’s a good movie, I watched it with the kids, we all liked it. Children like it as much as they did Frozen back then.

It’s one of the very few original movies nowadays which doesn’t just reheat some old franchise, so I’m all for it to succeed and show that it’s worth to make new original movies.

db2@lemmy.world on 30 Nov 06:33 next collapse

Original? It’s Korean Frozen, and Frozen wasn’t original either.

Nomorereddit@lemmy.today on 30 Nov 07:01 next collapse

Is it tho? Only one character is developed… and her story is to accept her demon side, and then ban all demons?

Also the first enemies in the movie say they are here to attack the fans, then the next demons do the same thing.

Their bodies are proportioned like barbie, their ankles would break under them if they were made in real life proportions.

Its got one arguably catchy song…about nothing.

This feels like the backstreet boys, who pushed one 1-2 songs hard for years. They danced, they marketed, they were used by the industry and spit out.

I mean kpop demon hunter were on snl and Macy’s day parade. Next is Disney, new years eve in that stupid time square (check out Dubai nye online, way better), and grocery store play lists.

jeena@piefed.jeena.net on 30 Nov 07:16 next collapse

It’s easy to make a movie sound dumb by attacking only the weak points and not acknowledging why it is very popular.

For Bladerunner for example:

Half the movie is just people wandering through neon fog acting like every sentence is the meaning of life. And yet somehow nobody ever explains anything.

Deckard is supposed to be this legendary hunter but spends most of the time getting tossed around by the very things he’s meant to “retire.”

The world looks incredible, yeah, but it’s basically style doing all the heavy lifting while the plot tiptoes behind hoping nobody asks questions.

And the big emotional moments? They land mostly because the soundtrack shoves them at you, not because the story bothered to earn them.

starlinguk@lemmy.world on 30 Nov 11:14 collapse

I think it’s terrible too, but if people like it, I won’t yuck their yum.

dreugeworst@lemmy.ml on 30 Nov 13:35 collapse

my only complaint with it is the same complaint I have with all kpop: it’s autotuned to hell and back. I suppose many people like how it sounds, but it’s not for me

hydrashok@sh.itjust.works on 30 Nov 05:17 next collapse

Because it’s a popular movie with a catchy soundtrack that has a Grammy nominated song that was number one on the Billboard Top 100? It’s not like they’re pushing an obscure art film released solely for a run at an Oscar.

Sony makes the money. Just like they did with Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse, and countless other products of Sony Animation.

RamRabbit@lemmy.world on 30 Nov 05:19 collapse

Yeah, I’m confused on why they wouldn’t push KPop Demon Hunters. People like it.

It’s also really funny that Disney blamed their fans for not supporting original content after Elio flopped. Then KPop Demon Hunters comes crashing in and is popular as fuck.

devolution@lemmy.world on 30 Nov 14:50 collapse

Disney: Lol. People want sexless Mary Sues who are forced diversity failures that girl bosses their way to the top. Why are our movies failing?

Microsoft: Let’s release the same slop and ignore improvements. What could possibly happen?

Ryan Coogler: Umm mostly black cast here. Nothing forced about anything here. And the story is great!

Sony: Well Korean girls who are cringy as fuck, cry when hurt, depend on each other, and are still badasses resonate.

Sandfall studios: People actually want single player games with compelling stories that are actually fun.

Disney: ???

Microsoft: ???

Warner Bros: ???

Oka@sopuli.xyz on 30 Nov 05:18 next collapse

Netflix

msokiovt@lemmy.today on 30 Nov 05:42 next collapse

Oh boy… there’s some symbolism in it. It’s this: vigilantcitizen.com/…/the-occult-symbolism-of-kpo…

Only for those who dare dive into the symbolism of it. I did so, and holy spit…

JaymesRS@piefed.world on 30 Nov 05:59 next collapse

So let me see if I understand; a movie about Korean and Korean-adjacent pop stars who have existed throughout the ages to fend off spiritual/mythological beings, features Korean spirituality/mythological figures and symbolism.

You don’t say…

Archer@lemmy.world on 30 Nov 21:48 collapse

Next you’re gonna tell me it’s set in Korea!!

Acamon@lemmy.world on 30 Nov 06:26 next collapse

Wow, that site is unhinged. Also, that article feels like it’s been heavily rewritten by AI, if not pure ai slop. Normally I enjoy crazy paranoid rants about demonic symbolism on cereal boxes, or whatever, but that article was shallow and vacuous.

_Nico198X_@europe.pub on 30 Nov 12:34 collapse

It’s not too late to seek therapy.

TheReanuKeeves@lemmy.world on 30 Nov 05:55 next collapse

I’m gonna have to assume the creators and producers make money off this

A_norny_mousse@feddit.org on 30 Nov 10:24 next collapse

I asked three 5-year-old girls what they were playing. They answered K-pop demon hunters. Each of them had a different garish hair color (represented by colorful beanies). That’s about all I know about K-Pop Demon Hunters.

Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works on 30 Nov 14:54 collapse

I have watched 10-20 min random segments a dozen, dozen times over the last couple weeks… I can fill some holes. Rumi is the one with purple hair. They fight demons with weapons and song, the song strengthens the “honmoon” which is an artificial barrier which keeps demons away from the human realm. If they can get all of Korea to thirst for them at the exact same time they can create a “golden honmoon” and seal off the demons forever.

cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 30 Nov 10:57 next collapse

It’s not actually a group, it’s just a movie. And they weren’t pushing it. Netflix released it thinking it wouldn’t go anywhere, and it took off. That’s why there isn’t a lot of merch for it (and it’s just now coming out), because they didn’t expect it to take off like it did. Now they’re pushing merch and kicking themselves for not doing it sooner. Now they’re pushing it to try to meet demand. It’s largely being pulled by grade school girls and young adults.

As for “new group,” I’d say you’re confusing KPDH with 22/7, only most people don’t know what 22/7 is. 22/7 is a Japanese pop group who have an anime which tells a fictional tale of a mysterious wall that spits out cards with orders that people follow, eventually creating an idol group to win the hearts and minds of the people. But 22/7 is an actual group that records music and releases it. Their best song isn’t even in the anime — it was released after.

With KPDH, it’s just a movie, though if the producers and whatnot were smart, they’d take the three singers who do the singing voices of the HUNTR/X girls, and have them record together… like 22/7 do. So by the time the next movie comes out, they’ve already had a couple albums out, and this can play into the lore of the new film. EJAE (Rumi) is a K-Pop star in her own right, but they don’t have to write songs. The pop industry has for decades had other people write songs for the performers. (The other two are also singers, none of them are very good on their own, though it’s subjective, but the other two are quite unlike HUNTR/X, with a lot of explicit stuff. Not something you want your grade school daughter looking into.) (They should also do the same with the Saja Boys.) (Of course, if KPDH has you jonesing for K-Pop, you could just listen to BTS if you like the boys, and Blackpink if you like the girls, then branch out from there. Or K/DA if you like cartoon bands — they did music for League of Legends, before Jinx/Arcane were the focus. K/DA is probably the most similar to HUNTR/X as far as I can tell.)

bless@lemmy.ml on 30 Nov 12:18 next collapse

Imagine the KPDH v Saja Boys album sale battle…

Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works on 30 Nov 14:50 collapse

Hey you seem like you know a lot about this stuff… Any idea what a 4 year old could watch that’s in the same realm? I might lose my mind if I have to hear that movie everyday again for the next week…

cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 30 Nov 21:10 collapse

I know a lot about anime, but not as much as some. I’ve only been watching since 2013. And I know about an animated flick that’s popular with little girls, but I’m neither little (I’m in my 40s) nor female. I have a niece who’s about twice as old as your kid, but she likes any character with red hair. Or pink. I tried to get her into SPYxFAMILY (which doesn’t have any singing!) but, just because everyone’s favourite character is a four-year-old with pink hair and big green eyes, doesn’t mean the show is made for four year olds. It’s set in 1960s Germany, albeit with fictional place names, but it’s the whole East vs West, Spy Vs Spy kinda thing, except the spy needs a child to get to a reclusive rival who only ever attends school events for his young son. So he adopts this girl, but anime plot twist, she has pink hair and is telepathic (also dumb as a box of rocks). So it’s a comedy. Then he needs a wife, for the mission, and “marries” an assassin — from the other side. It’s PG-13 at best but there are a lot of gun fights, and the “mama” fights with knives. There is some blood but it’s not graphic. It’s nothing compared to what I grew up with, so I’d say it’s fine. Not all the episodes are about the kids, but a lot of them are, and the kids are pretty realistic, like how they bicker and plot and make up by the end of the day, and have their little cliques and whatnot.

As far as traditional cartoons for toddlers… I have no idea. Kids these days play Roblox and Fortnite on tablets. I don’t know what they watch on their own.

If you want more anime recommendations though, I can help with that. Also I wouldn’t mention something if it wasn’t in English. I watch mostly in Japanese with subtitles, but obviously that wouldn’t work for a 4 year old.

_Nico198X_@europe.pub on 30 Nov 12:32 next collapse

ppl like it. welcome to Earth.

flamiera@kbin.melroy.org on 30 Nov 14:28 next collapse

I am about tired of K-Pop everything.

Nomorereddit@lemmy.today on 30 Nov 18:01 collapse

Its like backstreet boys and nsync.

njm1314@lemmy.world on 30 Nov 23:52 collapse

Awesome?

Taco2112@lemmy.world on 30 Nov 14:32 next collapse

Sometimes people like things that you don’t. If don’t like it, don’t waste your time trying to figure it out. Move on and let others enjoy things they like.

devolution@lemmy.world on 30 Nov 14:42 next collapse

Contrary to popular belief, Kpop demon hunters is actually insanely good and deserves the accolades it’s receiving.

Best movie - Sinners.

Best animated movie - Kpop demon hunters.

Best game - Expedition 33.

baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de on 30 Nov 22:04 collapse

i thought it was fine with the exception that it seemed to me like some plot was being skipped near the end. it’s good when viewed together with other people though.

devolution@lemmy.world on 30 Nov 23:46 collapse

They trimmed 30 minutes from the end. That’s why it felt rushed.

Edit: It was supposed to be an actual fight between Rumi and Celine. Also, Celine was supposed to disclose she accidently killed Rumi’s mom trying to kill Rumi’s dad. And Jinu and Rumi were supposed to kiss before he faded. Stuff like that. Also, there was supposed to be 5 minutes of Zoes back story involving her being brutally bullied in America for liking kpop, explaining her need to be a people pleaser.

scytale@piefed.zip on 30 Nov 16:17 collapse

Sony and Netflix do. It’s not about how good or bad something is. If it gets viral/popular, they will milk it as much as they can.

Nomorereddit@lemmy.today on 30 Nov 18:00 collapse

Ty!