from fellowmortal@lemmy.dbzer0.com to nostupidquestions@lemmy.world on 06 Feb 2024 08:54
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I feel like there are lots of parallels between the eighties and now (recession/inflation, yuppies/inequality, skin-heads/fascists, hot-cold wars etc.) but there used to be protest music! Where is that stuff now? Music that’s intelligent and outraged - like we should be!
I’m out of touch now, so if it exists, educate me! Or have the protest songs been removed from tiktok by the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Act (UK specific, but suppression of protest seems to be everywhere)? (I’ve linked to the Levellers - maybe it really was better back in the day?)
edit: Maybe not the right audience, but if the song is old enough to vote then I might already know it! What’s happening now? Any songs from the last 10 years!
edit: Thanks for everyone’s insights. I’ve spent the day discovering music that I’d never have found otherwise. Really enjoying a load of these, but thanks to everyone! It seems like protest music is confined to certain genres/places, and lots of older songs - maybe they just last longer… which is maybe a little interesting.
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Bella Ciao and Sixteen Tons are perennial favorites.
Both of those are good but old songs, I think OP was wondering where the current protest music is.
Thanks for these - they are great examples of what I want. However, as @shish_mish mentioned, I was wondering what has come out recently? [edit:words]
Some of the classical ones
L’internationale, which is still relevant today
La banderra rosa
Bella Ciao, which despite becoming a pop hit is a struggle song
El pueblo unido
La butte rouge
-The Red army choir have a ton of great ones
Then on more recent, just look at the punk and rap scene, there is a lot
I guess this what I’m afraid of, but things must have felt pretty scary during the first cold war - Imagine raising children while governments were
openly[edit] testing fusion weapons!I think that music is part of giving people inspiration and hope. Does tiktok just filter out the protest to keep us scrolling?
Excuse me, GenX chiming in. We had that exact same list, with the sort-of-maybe exception of climate change (pollution was really really bad though). Then again , we had the daily doom of nuclear war on our heads.
I’ve participated in in-person protests with various groups about a dozen times a year since 2020 and I don’t even live in a city. People are definitely out here protesting, we just don’t get any media coverage at all unless we break things.
edit- in an attempt to actually be helpful - search the internet for any progressive or socialist activist groups near you and sign up for their newsletters/follow their socials. Try to attend a few events, and there you’ll hopefully meet people who can get you connected to local anarchists/more radical folks who go out and protest a lot. Then you can carpool with folks and share expenses and have a safe group of people to go to protests with.
Well, not sure about “good” but punk is and always has been about politics.
Personally, I love the folk punk end of things like AJJ’s ‘Normalization Blues’: youtu.be/0EDVM73bU-w?si=_mtGGyFhrmeMRlpZ
In a similar vein, Matt Pless’s “where the frayed wind blows” is 5 minutes of angry goodness.
There’s also a lot of protest hip hop but I don’t know the newer stuff particularly well.
This is great! :D
edit: Anyone know about hip-hop? Would be great to know where to start on that
A lot of rap is political/social, for more mainstream stuff you’ve got songs like ‘This Is America’ by Childish Gambino, ‘Reagan’ by Killer Mike, or even ‘Fuck the Police’ by N.W.A.
You’ve got even more leftist groups/rappers like ‘The Coup’, RATM/Public Enemy supergroup ‘Prophets of Rage’, hardcore shit like ‘Immortal Techniques’ or ‘Non Phixon’, ‘Dead Prez’, ‘Nas’, ‘The Fugees’, ‘Tupac’, ‘De La Soul’ just to name a few more.
There’s also more tankie shit but I’m not gonna promote that authoritarian garbage.
It’s almost harder to find non-political rap than it is political rap when you start breaking down the messages of many songs.
Thanks! Childish Gambino - is a great example!
I didn’t know some of these, so I’ll check them out, but they aren’t exactly new - the rest are from the ninties, right?
I tried mixing it up, it’s probably more early 2000-2010s for the majority. I kinda lost interest in a lot of rap after that whole trap phase started.
Killer Mikes a bit too centrist for my liking but Reagan from 2012 is an amazing song and one I’d recommend the most from that list.
Try Immortal Technique.
And many more
Reagan by Killer Mike. Samples shit Reagan said
On the Hip Hop note I would say Run The Jewels have some amazing lyrical content in their songs about the state of things
Shots fired by Matt is also great. Oh, can’t forget “what you will”.
Tropical fuck storm is pretty good at ranting against the bullshit and bonus they also sound awesome:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_jxKD7X7pw
I haven’t heard of these guys - Thanks!
I’ve been stuck on them since I first stumbled on them. I cannot recall exactly how that happened.
This might not be everyones cup of tea, but metal and hardcore are full of protest music. Heaven Shall Burn for example is lyricly anti-fascist and environmentalist (live video because that show is fucking legendary).
Gojira also slaps.
Holy shit! Thanks - that video is outrageous! These are great
Between the Buried and Me, a progressive metal band that is considered legendary, is philosophically political in so much as that most of their albums are about the inevitable decline of humanity and the destruction of everything due to capitalism, greed, regressive ideologies etc. If you’ve never listened to them you should start with the Great Misdirect. Spotify has a live version I think and it is phenomenal.
lekkerrrrr
saved, thanks!
I’m a big fan of Rise Against. Try these tracks out:
and Bad Religion:
Bad Religion was one of my high-school favorites that has stayed a favorite since. I have every one of their albums saved on my phone.
Listening now! Thanks
I personally would add: • The Nowhere Generation • Wolves
Leslie Fish is still writing music. Plus her old works from 1980-s (eg It's Sister Jenny's Turn to Throw the Bomb and Firestorm) are as relevant now as they were 40 years ago.
Billy talent are great for political, fuck the government/ big corporations type songs. Not protest songs so much. But it feels pretty on theme. Their messages are great.
Surprise surprise and viking death march are two of my personal favourites songs by them.
I hate to break it to you but Billy Talent formed in 1993! ;)
That album is absolutely killer and I’ve loved BN since I heard Try Honesty many moons ago.
That said … They have been singing about how young people need to fight the system while having one of the most clean, corporate images I can think of for bands in their category.
Watching a 40 year old man dance around an arena in VANs and Atticus hoodies while telling contemporary youth that their generation is a “fucking joke” is peak cringe to me.
Still love the music though. Wish he’d do more heartbreak songs, they’re his forte.
Thrash metal has a lot of politics, if that’s your thing.
I’ll give it a try - any suggestions?
If you are starting out with metal, I would recommend Metallica, or Death Angel (albums such as Evil Divide or The Dream Calls For Blood). They have a more mainstream sound. If you enjoy those, either dm me or reply, I can send you more. Or alternatively I have a community: !thrashmetal@lemmy.world, if you wanna check out some less obvious ones.
I’ll check in.
A lot of German ones these days, hip hop / rock / metal / pop-punk
I have a GCSE in German, what would you suggest?
These are good. Thanks
You mention the UK, so I’ll just drop a couple of names of folks/bands talking about racism, immigration and toxic male culture.
Bob Vylan
We live here - m.youtube.com/watch?v=VFqhJyvly1g
Wicked and Bad - m.youtube.com/watch?v=KRJ-s7jRyAM
Idles
Danny Nedelko - m.youtube.com/watch?v=QkF_G-RF66M
Lambrini Girls
Lads lads lads - m.youtube.com/watch?v=IuLK56UrCL0
There’s a lot of good punk still happening.
Guilty as charged. Good stuff - I’ll look out for these - my new years resolution is to see some live music.
All these bands being UK based, you should have an opportunity to see them.
I don’t know whereabouts in the UK you are, but you could find some new stuff at things like the Futurama festival in Liverpool.
www.cultureliverpool.co.uk/…/futurama-festival/
I’ll be seeing IDLES in a few months in Texas
Never fight a man with a perm!
Bob Vylan and Idles are great, will check the Lambrini Girls, thanks
Music created in the UK by people who are fucking furious is still alive and well.
Frank Carter and the Rattlesnakes
Sleaford Mods
Kid Kapichi
Panic Shack
I know Sleaford Mods. Will check the others too, thanks
Frank Carter did this lovely little ditty with Joe Talbot from IDLES.
My Town.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=gx59hOw2HcA
@frazorth you’ve got going down rabbit holes … I wonder what I else I can do to scare a tory
Listen to Boris Johnson is a fucking cunt?
m.youtube.com/watch?v=uGwCykQwgTU
Or just Fuck The Tories
m.youtube.com/watch?v=TppbFVcfBcU
Should also add Hacktivist. A few of their songs are politically charged, and several calls BoJo a cunt.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=YWzwEPYIjYM
Good call.
Body Count, Ice T Rage Against the Machine Green Day Tool,more about religion
Goddamn White Trash by Ministry is my go-to song for 2024.
Is this the most recent suggestion on here?
That’s good stuff!
Dead kennedys:
youtu.be/amTAIjhUjDk?si=qfjvkyGwlgFXoEqs
I was really hoping for the link to be Let’s Lynch the Landlord tbh
It’s not as punk, but the last three albums by Metric are brilliant in how they discuss the current state of the world.
This is good. It doesn’t have to be punk - I don’t even know what people listen to now…
Lol me neither
The internet fractured culture and there is no one thing everyone is watching or listen to anymore and I don’t know how I feel about that
If you like Rage Against the Machine, Tom Morello did a solo project called The Nightwatchman that had a lot of great protest songs. I think it’s closer to 15 years old, so not the last 10.
Given that Tiktok is a corporation with likely ties to a government that is not particularly fond of protest, perhaps it is not the best place to find protest music. Having said that, Muse continues to make protest music as they always have. I suppose the problem is that protest music doesn't often get included on music platforms, leaving us with a sanitized version of the musical landscape.
Right Now - Jesse Roper
This is America - Childish Gambino
That was 6 years ago.
🧑👨👨🦳👴💀
Toxicity - System of a Down was an incredible album about American exceptionalism and war hungriness. The towers were hit a week after the album was released.
Sheesh, some time in June of 2023, Toxicity’s debut date became closer to 1/1/1980 than present day
Every single one of their records is more relevant now than ever.
System’s whole catalogue really, they’re basically Rage Against the Machine, but with an Armenian twist and flair, love them, but can’t believe the drummer is a MAGAtard.
“George Floyd” by the Log Bay Ramblers is some nice and direct bluegrass folk music
Say She She’s “Norma” is all about the end of Roe v Wade
Riot Time - Powerman 5000
Saw them play several months ago. Surprised they’re still touring. Good show.
Sault’s “Foot on Necks” is a great anti police brutality anthem, and a big chunk of all their music has messages like that
Uncle Sam Goddamn - Brother Ali
Ju$t - Run the Jewels (and a lot of their or Killer Mike's songs)
Gang Shit - Marlon Craft
The Guillotine - The Coup
I Wish I Was a Riot Grrrl - Destructo Disk
Nobody's Biz - Four Fists
Some of these being older than 10 years is a real bummer lol
Walking In The Snow was the RTJ song that came to mind for me
The music video is amazing
I love this question. Perhaps there is also the record labels and mainstream media that prioritize marketability and mass appeal, which most probably would discourage artists from producing overtly political content, the stuff that may be thrown into the controversial or polarizing basket just doesn’t pull in the bucks these days.
As it ever was?
edit: it does feel different now - but it has never been easy.
Was just about to post IDLES here myself. It goes and it goes and it goes
Recently found IDLES, amazing band!
Gotta love the AJJs.
Poor Man’s Poison has put out a few good political/social songs recently, I’m not sure if I would call them “protest” but still fairly close
Feed The Machine
Give And Take
Wait… we should be outraged?
I feel like I should. (edit:accent)
The Offspring. Americana, Stuff is Messed up, the Kids Aren’t Alright…
Someone sent me this one recently, and the lyrics are interesting.
“Rich Men North of Richmond” by Oliver Anthony
Questionable politics. Not sure the intent, but this raised some red flags last year in various circles. Google will turn them up.
I have been trying to remember this one.
Well, NPR did an entire article of 20 protest songs that came out in 2020. Looks like they might have made a Spotify playlist of them at one point too.
Here are 30 protest albums that came out in the first half of 2022
Here are 50 protest songs from 2023.
These are just results from pretty simple Google searches. ‘protest songs year’.
Hmm… using google to find anti-establishment songs… ;)
And then listening to the Spotify playlist…
Old School Pig, by Tilt.
Moscow Death Brigade for example
La Bala - Juana Fé
New, political, angry
Spy - Bootlicker
youtu.be/z57PP1Kh00s?si=gTT0NMamA4Dy7HH_
Well I found a new band to listen to. I just wish they would have kept that energy at like 30s, and just ended at 1 minute.
Thanks for the recommendation though.
The Muslims - Fuck These Fuckin Fascists
Ashenspire - Hostile Architecture
Chat Pile - God’s Country
2 recent albums I’ve been slapping. Dangerously spicy at times, and unapologetic.
Pretty much anything by minutemen but a personal favorite youtu.be/7zjcut9IQRM?si=aAh3wqGp2WjzqwGA
Billy Bragg is still making bangers
I don’t know if I’d call his new stuff “bangers”.
I mean, a lot of meh too but I thought Bridges Not Walls was a great EP
For the UK specifically I’d recommend Bob Vylan
thanks - I’m checking some of the live dates.
He’s a mix of punk, rap and grime in that order, but he’s very angry and very political
Bob Vylan is top notch.
2020 Visions by Michael Guy Bowman is about the insurrection
Check out Propagandhi
This thread should be a Spotify playlist!
Anything by flobots, old stuff or new is pretty political
one of my favorite groups is Mischief Brew from Philly. Very folksy, anti-cop, anti everything government lol
boycott me
Old Tyme Memry
Farewell Goodfellows
Roll me through the gates of hell
Every Town will Celebrate
Bro Killer Mike just won a Grammy
He won three! Imo, for the most boring song on his new album, but whatever. But that album is highly political
The fast paced Ukrainian version of In The Army Now which protests military marketing and conscription (directed at USA)
Laga Reh (translations required lol) which protests Pakistani government complacency in allowing foreign powers (cough USA cough) to dictate the country at the expense of progress and “disappearing” of any local opposition.
Thanks for these - really interesting stuff that I couldn’t have just happened upon!
Does this count?
Stand Out Riot is an incredible ska/hardcore band with mostly political lyrics. They are from UK so I don’t get all of the references, but they are fucking awesome anyway.
Like most or even all of punk
you mean everything rage against the machine has ever done?
Some of those that work forces,
Are the same that burn crosses!
You know that RATMs big albums were over 25 years ago, right?
Maybe I’m late but I recommend Speak by Queensryche, it’s about revolution. The entire album Operation Mindcrime is a rail against religion and capitalism told through a character recruited into an underground revolution. It’s very good and a song that contains the lines “educate the masses” and “burn the Whitehouse down” gets a thumbs up from me
Spreading the Disrase also…
Fighting fire with empty words While the banks get fat and the poor stay poor And the rich get rich and the cops get paid To look away as the one percent rules America
They were talking about the 1% LONG before it was popular to do so.
revolution by Tracy chapman
anything by the coup
This has been true for over thirty years but most people sadly have never heard of them.
Fuck yes, this is the answer right here.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJufERGv9Sk
Rap Against Dictatorship. Check out their other videos.
This thought has occurred to me recently. What is this generation’s soundtrack? What is the music everyone will look on and say it defined the time?
There isn’t one so much these days because streaming has given everyone their own particular music bubble. And stuff can still get insanely popular, but there aren’t hits that everyone talks about anymore.
You won’t know until it’s long passed. Time is the best curator.
Despacito, the fox, Gangnam style, shape of you, cruel summer, blinding lights, etc.
Born in the USA
I didn’t see this mentioned so wanted to add it. Most people think of it as pro USA, but the lyrics paint a very different message.
For example:
Womanarchist by Bad Cop/Bad Cop is pretty excellent
Nofx - you’re wrong:
You’re wrong about virtues of Christianity And you’re wrong if you agree with Sean Hannity If you think that pride is about nationality, you’re wrong
You’re wrong when you imprison people turning tricks And you’re wrong about trickle down economics If you think that punk rock doesn’t mix with politics, you’re wrong
You’re wrong for hating queers and eating steers If you kill for the thrill of the hunt You’re wrong 'bout wearing fur and not hating Ann Coulter Cause she’s a cunted cunt
You’re wrong if you celebrate Columbus Day And You’re wrong if you think there will be a Judgement Day If you’re a charter member of the NRA, you’re wrong
You’re wrong if you support capital punishment And you’re wrong if you don’t question your government If you think her reproductive rights are inconsequent, you’re wrong
You’re wrong fighting Jihad, your blind faith in God Your religions are all flawed You’re wrong about drug use, when its not abuse I hope you never reproduce
You’re getting high on the downlow A victim of Cointelpro You’re wrong and will probably never know
NOFX has been around for like 100 years, they’re the old guard, they’re just still active (and alive) somehow haha.
They are currently playing their last tour.
I’ve always liked “universal soldier” by Donovan
Oskar Barnack ∞ Oscar Grant -Blue Scholars
Bonus in Dutch - Bent Je Bang - Hang Youth
Freedom is a Verb by Daniel Kahn and the Painted Bird is a favorite of mine
Garbage - No gods no masters. Whole album is shamelessly political.
The men who rule the world Have made a fucking mess The history of power The worship of success The king is in the counting house He’s chairman of the board The women who crowd the courtrooms All accused of being whores
Dégénération
A French Quebec song about how the world is going and how Gen Z has been neglected
How about some Billy Talent? Love them musically, but lyrically they are equally strong. Some songs that come to mind are: -Reckless paradise -Kingdom of Zod -Surprise surprise -Dead silence
Additionally I’d add Paramore’s ‘The news’ from their recent album.
Pokemon Liberation Army pokemonliberationarmy.bandcamp.com/album/tm101
Billy Talent
Distillers
Bad Cop, Bad Cop
So many more but I gotta dip
Sharptooth
The Baboon Show
The Halluci Nation - (Pretty cool Hip Hop group)
Oh man I need to dig out my old Distillers stuff and listen to it again!
Most stuff mentioned here is from artists few people know. We need the big names to step up and take a stand.
I can already see it: Taylor Swift - Fuck tha police
The weekend - War
Beyoncé - Get up, Stand up
Bieber - give peace a chance
Drake - the revolution will not be televised
And Ariana Grande - I hate the rich
I listen to a lot of punk music so obviously it’s strongly political. Here’s just a few off the top of my head:
I tried to include a bit of variety and not all be anti-war songs from/about the Bush era. A couple are about the music industry specifically, and one is a musical rant about kink culture (and it’s not the one you think based on the title!) I’m also a big Rise Against fan so I tried to pull out some non-singles from accross many years since basically any song by them has a good political message. I highly recommend looking up the lyrics to all of these after the first listen or better during the second listen
If you like punk, Leftover Crack has a bunch.
piped.video/watch?v=toTm1FDtMsM
Nofx is doing their retirement tour right now and it makes me super sad I won’t be able to go
I don’t know if thease two are protest songs, but they are near enough: Plavi orkestar - Fa Fa Fašista, Bijelo dugme - Pljuni i zapjevaj moja Jugoslavijo
Edit: They are yugoslavian, so not that relevant now.
Ren Gill is a lyrical genius. Highly recommend.
Is Antiflag still around?
GRANDSON, GRANDSON, GRANDSON EVERY DAY. You’ve probably heard them, I love Dirty
Gary Clarke Jr. Has some good protest songs, especially for a blues musician, including a remake of Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young’s Ohio.
Municipal Waste is great for some hardcore, there’s actually a bunch of hardcore bands that have some excellent protest songs.
Then you have Ice-T’s Body Count.
Lamb of God’s albums post-Randy’s time in a Czech prison have been full of social commentary, far more than the earlier albums.
I’ve seen people highlight Killer Mike’s Grammy wins, but his other group Run the Jewels is pretty much the biggest name in protest rap these days.
Then you have Kendrick Lamar, possibly the best rapper of his generation, absolutely one of the greatest story tellers of rap, period.
Overall there’s a lot of pop, metal, rock, rap and other genres who have some prominent names and many lesser known names who are putting out good angry music.
Then you have Ice Cube putting out Arrest the President then proceeding to talk about voting for that same president.🤦♂️
Since I haven’t seen him mentioned yet, Ted Leo is still making albums.
Tyler Childers - Long Violent History
It’s the worst that it’s been since the last time it happened It’s happening again right in front of our eyes There’s updated footage, wild speculation Tall tales and hearsay and absolute lies
Been passed off as factual, when actually the actual Causes they’re awkwardly blocking the way Keeping us all from enjoyin’ our evening Shoving its roots through the screens in our face
Now, what would you get if you heard my opinion Conjecturin’ on matters that I ain’t never dreamed In all my born days as a white boy from Hickman Based on the way that the world’s been to me?
It’s called me belligerent, it’s took me for ignorant But it ain’t never once made me scared just to be Could you imagine just constantly worryin’ Kickin’ and fightin’, beggin’ to breathe?
How many boys could they haul off this mountain Shoot full of holes, cuffed and layin’ in the streets ‘Til we come into town in a stark ravin’ anger Looking for answers and armed to the teeth?
Thirty-ought-sixes, Papaw’s old pistol How many, you reckon, would it be, four or five? Or would that be the start of a long, violent history Of tucking our tails as we try to abide?
Or would that be the start of a long, violent history Of tucking our tails as we try to abide?