What country has a similar population to Us and far lower murder rate?
from sopularity_fax@sopuli.xyz to nostupidquestions@lemmy.ca on 21 Nov 2025 02:14
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What is the xfactor?

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Quilotoa@lemmy.ca on 21 Nov 2025 02:32 next collapse

Indonesia is closest in population to the U.S. It has a murder rate of 0.4 per 100 000 population while the U.S. has a rate of 5.8.

sopularity_fax@sopuli.xyz on 21 Nov 2025 02:33 collapse

What do you think is the X-factor?

originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com on 21 Nov 2025 03:09 next collapse

geee i wonder

sopularity_fax@sopuli.xyz on 21 Nov 2025 03:15 collapse

Great point. Insanity, honestly. Australia learned that the hard way but I wonder if that might be its internal antidote to situations similar to the current Situation in us

Like, even if I was rich and had everything, its like, why do you want to have to micromanage the singlest person in the way you’re lobbying and voting and acting to cause? Thats so stressful and stupid, how about you make sure all schools get propery funded, anybody who wants to work can get high quality employment options to put their hands and brains and hearts to good use, everyone has a home if they want it

better for everyone when everyone has what they need. Then there’s no need for violence cuz you can easily get your monthly nut

originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com on 21 Nov 2025 03:20 collapse

weve had churches, elementary schools shot up. an entire class of kindergartners slaughtered. zero changes.

there is no 'hard way' the united states will ever be able to go through that will allow them to address the issue unleashed upon themselves.

death is just a tax they are willing to pay for pretend security

sopularity_fax@sopuli.xyz on 21 Nov 2025 03:26 collapse

To what extent do you think school shooters have their motivation based on?

  • bullying
  • fame/infamy (be like whatever serial killer fascination)
  • toxic parentsl relation
  • religion
originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com on 21 Nov 2025 13:35 collapse

sure, there are some cultural pressures; but most of those things are ubiquitous to humanity in general.

the real difference is availability ... the permanent solution to any temporary problem in the united states is a handgun away.

the only people claiming otherwise are desperate to clutch their human killing devices for reasons i will never comprehend.

Quilotoa@lemmy.ca on 21 Nov 2025 13:15 collapse

No one thing. It’s a combination of laws, attitudes, culture, and convenience.

Treczoks@lemmy.world on 21 Nov 2025 13:41 next collapse

The EU is a tad bigger than the US (450M), and the average murder rate is around 1 per 100k.

www.statista.com/…/homicide-rate-europe-country/

The key factors are most likely the different views on gun ownership and a different take on violence and bullying in general. Even the American national “sport” is nothing but a glorified brawl.

FridaySteve@lemmy.world on 21 Nov 2025 13:42 next collapse

Even the American national “sport” is nothing but a glorified brawl.

Baseball?

Quilotoa@lemmy.ca on 21 Nov 2025 14:48 collapse

As opposed to rugby.

Treczoks@lemmy.world on 21 Nov 2025 15:48 collapse

Rugby is a) only a niche sport, basically played in the UK and a few non-European countries, and b) way less of a brawl.

ada@piefed.blahaj.zone on 22 Nov 2025 20:31 collapse

Rugby is hardly “niche”. It’s played in far more countries than American Football…

jerkface@lemmy.ca on 22 Nov 2025 21:10 next collapse

by fewer people, and followed by a far smaller proportion

Treczoks@lemmy.world on 23 Nov 2025 00:24 collapse

Now that is an easy target…

dermanus@lemmy.ca on 21 Nov 2025 18:27 next collapse

Most obvious answer to me is Canada. Numbers wise the population is smaller but in terms of the culture and general attitudes it’s about as close as you’ll get.

sopularity_fax@sopuli.xyz on 21 Nov 2025 19:07 collapse

I actually am kinda focusing more on approximately same sized population

mech@feddit.org on 22 Nov 2025 21:17 collapse

Why? What you should be looking at is same population density and distribution.
A small but mostly urbanized country would be completely different from a large but mostly rural country in this regard, even with the same total population number.

Sunsofold@lemmings.world on 21 Nov 2025 23:14 collapse

I hope you can see it’s not as simple as a single ‘x factor.’ There are many things that affect murder rates, and many of them have little to nothing to do with simple population count.

sopularity_fax@sopuli.xyz on 22 Nov 2025 01:26 collapse

I mean, the guns and permissive attitude towards them the way they are opposite for drugs is a massive xfactor

Sunsofold@lemmings.world on 23 Nov 2025 05:13 collapse

Somewhat. However, a place like Greenland is famously also casual about firearms. America has a lot of other factors, and the firearms are more of a multiplier for other factors than the one big thing. They’re just politically charged so that’s what the media focuses on.