How does the concept of the Overton Window live up to its hype?
from PatrickStar@sh.itjust.works to nostupidquestions@lemmy.ca on 16 Mar 22:46
https://sh.itjust.works/post/56924275

I’m unsure if this question comes from what many of you would refer to as skepticism. The inspiration to put pen to paper so-to-speak and ask the question comes from an interesting exchange I witnessed yesterday. Yesterday was the Ides of March, and someone chose the day to ask a question about people acting upon some kind of acknowledgement of the Overton Window due to the political environment we live in today, and someone joked about the irony of asking the question on the Ides of March, which is the day of the year when Julius Caesar was assassinated. Though the conversation then kind of evolved into a conversation after that where people talked about if the Overton Window was a “thing” in ancient times, with there being an understanding among us that the political activity of ancient times didn’t benefit from any kind of acknowledged “moving window”. Anywho, that made me think more vividly of asking this, and it can be seen as a follow-up to a previous question I had asked.

As a recap, the Overton Window is the phenomenon where people say there is said to be a window of acceptability on the political spectrum that decides how a community will act in the face of certain societal issues. If the political spectrum was a slit where a lever is stuck into, the Overton Window would be the lever. If you think about it more, in a way that reminds us that politics is meta, historicity, classical ethics, and certain non-governmental aspects of different cultures are enough to go so far as to add a layer of scrutiny to the Overton Window. How would you phrase your answer if you were having a discussion about this and someone mentioned their acknowledgement of the Overton Window was shook by thoughts like this, as one might perceive is happening here?

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cecilkorik@lemmy.ca on 16 Mar 22:51 next collapse

Of course it was a thing. They just called people who weren’t within it “barbarians” or “infidels” and killed them. Much like we still do today. We just got used to and spoiled by the idea that most of the world was very close to being in the same Overton Window for quite awhile. It seems like that time has passed now, and various people’s overton window diverges once more, so I guess back to killing the unbelievers we go.

just2look@lemmy.zip on 16 Mar 23:02 collapse

I’m not entirely sure what this is even asking, but the Overton window doesn’t really have hype, and there doesn’t need to be any acknowledgment of its existence for it to exist. Its an observation of human and societal behavior, not like a law people have to follow.

Society has always had things that are acceptable and things that are not. These will shift and change depending on the time, culture, political landscape, etc. The Overton window is just the political thoughts and stances that are accepted by a given society. What is politically acceptable in mainstream US is different than the Scandinavian countries which is different from China which is different from Saudi Arabia. And if you travel back 200 years, all of those places would have different ideas on what is and is not politically viable.

I’m not sure what any of that has to do with the assassination of Julius Caeser and honestly couldn’t understand most of what you wrote, or what you’re trying to ask though. So I can’t really answer your question.