Do bears in the wild seriously subsist only on berries and salmon?
from LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world to nostupidquestions@lemmy.ca on 25 Dec 2023 18:05
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How are bears so huge? If I ate nothing but berries and salmon I’d probably be really slender.

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SonicBlue03@sh.itjust.works on 25 Dec 2023 18:08 next collapse

Bears tend to eat larger portions.

kent_eh@lemmy.ca on 25 Dec 2023 21:36 collapse

And more frequently .

FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 2023 18:10 next collapse

Depends on how much you ate, but similar to us, bears can be omnivores (though they tend to eat more meat type stuff): They’ll eat whatever they can, which can definitely include a lot of berries and fish, but they also eat nuts, roots, insects, honey, carrion, etc.

RampageDon@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 2023 18:40 next collapse

Just the bear necessities

southsamurai@sh.itjust.works on 25 Dec 2023 19:25 collapse

Dammit, now everyone is singing!

FireRetardant@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 2023 20:16 collapse

Depending on the bear species. Most black bears eat more vegetative foods than meats. Many bears are not strong hunters and tend to prefer to scavenge their meat. The exception being fishing.

Hayduke@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 2023 18:43 next collapse

You might be underestimating how nutrient-rich a steady diet of salmon can be.

According to a ranger in Denali I spoke to: It depends on where the bears live in relation to the food. Coastal grizzlies are much larger because they have plentiful fat and protein sources like salmon. Inland grizzlies that live near glacial streams don’t have that food source and subsist on larger quantities of berries and the like and are noticeably smaller than their coastal counterparts.

So the food sources directly impact the sizes of the animals within the same species. The grizzly I saw in Denali appeared no larger than well-fed black bears I have encountered in the Sierra Nevada range. I say appeared, because it very well may have been larger. But it certainly didn’t look like the ones near the coast.

Kind of an answer, but I’m not a bear biologist.

FireRetardant@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 2023 20:10 collapse

Salmon don’t typically run year round so it is a seasonal food source.

Bonehead@kbin.social on 25 Dec 2023 20:26 next collapse

Coincidentally, grizzly bears don't typically run year round, so it's a perfect matchup.

Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca on 01 Jan 2024 06:15 collapse

Salmon runs are in the fall right when bears are trying to bulk up for winter hibernation.

Spring they mostly subsist on roots, grasses, and other vegetation and insects, and summer is when the berries ripen so they take advantage of that.

rbos@lemmy.ca on 25 Dec 2023 19:07 next collapse

I’ve heard that bears feeding on salmon will eat only the high-value parts of the salmon and abandon the rest to scavengers, so I can believe it. More efficient when there’s a lot.

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FireRetardant@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 2023 20:13 next collapse

Bears also eat wild fruits, roots of some plants and lots of nuts (high in fats and protiens). They also are very oppourtunistic scavengers, rarely hunting outside of fishing.

ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca on 25 Dec 2023 20:15 next collapse

If you want to body build you eat that as well

Anticorp@lemmy.ml on 25 Dec 2023 21:07 next collapse

And potatoes, and brown rice.

corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca on 25 Dec 2023 22:11 collapse

BeefCAKE!!

HootinNHollerin@sh.itjust.works on 25 Dec 2023 20:34 next collapse

They eat moths when up above vegetation line

djsoren19@yiffit.net on 25 Dec 2023 20:40 next collapse

If you ate berries and salmon in the quantities bears do, you would absolutely not be very slender. That’s a diet of protein, fat, and sugars.

Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 2023 21:45 collapse

I mean, all diets are pretty much protein, fat, and sugar…but bears are eating nearly 20000 calories/day in the fall.

LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 2023 23:52 collapse

It astounds me how animals find all that food out in nature. When I go out in nature all I find are non-fruit-bearing trees and bushes and well manicured lawns.

how they’re able to find 20,000 calories a day 🤯

hitmyspot@aussie.zone on 25 Dec 2023 23:57 collapse

That’s why they say “The early bear catches the berry.”

blazera@kbin.social on 25 Dec 2023 20:34 next collapse

Im concerned with folks nutritional competency. Salmon has a lot of fat

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Feyd@programming.dev on 26 Dec 2023 00:50 collapse

That’s not how fat works at all. Adipose tissue is formed to store energy (calories) and it does not matter what the source of that energy is. It can be saturated fat, unsaturated fat, various forms of carbs… when eating more calories than used the excess is saved for later in adipose tissue.

LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world on 26 Dec 2023 02:41 collapse

I challenge you to a fun experiment. Go eat 5 gallons of ice cream. chart the calories and chart its metabolic effect on you and how much weight it makes you gain. Take before/after body measurements. Chart how long it takes you to burn that weight & inches off to get back to your baseline.

after you’re back to your baseline, eat the equal amount of calories in salmon. chart the same data as first experiment. come back and give us the results.

My hypothesis (from repeated personal experience) Is that ice cream has a much worse effect on the metabolism and body measurements. Salmon is much gentler and makes you feel healthier and look and feel better.

Jesse@lemmy.ca on 26 Dec 2023 03:15 collapse

I don’t know what you think science is but this is not it. Your experiment is like building a go kart and acting like you’re on par with auto-industry engineers.

ininewcrow@lemmy.ca on 25 Dec 2023 21:41 next collapse

I think comparing our diets to bears does not make sense at all … our systems are completely different.

A bear can eat massive amounts of food in a short period of time, gain lots of weight and then fast for several months and go to sleep and do nothing.

If we tried the same thing, we’d probably go into cardiac arrest, or some serious intestinal problems if we ate too much too fast in a short amount of time … and then we’d ruin our kidneys and liver and probably die of starvation if we went on fast after.

LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 2023 23:23 collapse

eat massive amounts of food in a short period of time, gain lots of weight and then fast for several months and go to sleep and do nothing.

You better believe I’ve TRIED! 😆

Slatlun@lemmy.ml on 25 Dec 2023 23:23 collapse

What do elephants eat? Whales?

LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 2023 23:43 collapse

Right?? surely they must be eating whales when we’re not watching. Because there’s no way elephants could be that huge from eating peanuts.