Whoever decided to use dark patterns at to trick users into activating backup on photos while just trying to browse their Pixel just added to my chaos pile today. (lemmy.world)
from krupo@infosec.exchange to googlepixel@lemmy.world on 26 Dec 2024 20:27
https://infosec.exchange/users/krupo/statuses/113721007280611399

Whoever decided to use dark patterns at @googlepixel to trick users into activating backup on photos while just trying to browse their Pixel just added to my chaos pile today.

Oh, yeah, I turned off the backup feature a year ago when I decided to go crazy with videos and one little push of the backup button would shut down my quota instantly.

Hand phone to child to view photos. Miss them hitting the backup all button. Quota destroyed.

#googlepixel

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krupo@infosec.exchange on 26 Dec 2024 20:28 next collapse

@googlepixel and sorry Lemmy account I know you're not actually Google but then, I didn't want to press backup either. I'm wildly mashing buttons today.

Eeyore_Syndrome@sh.itjust.works on 26 Dec 2024 21:08 next collapse

Gallery on GrapheneOS would never do this to you 🙃.

Ulrich@feddit.org on 27 Dec 2024 00:54 collapse

I use GOS to disable network connection on Google Photos so it couldn’t upload it even if I intentionally tried!

otp@sh.itjust.works on 26 Dec 2024 21:19 next collapse

Yeah good point.

Yeah good point.

GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org on 26 Dec 2024 22:54 collapse

You got Mastodon in my Lemmy!

You got Lemmy in my Mastodon!

I still don’t understand the logic behind tagging Lemmy communities in Mastodon posts. It never seems to be intentional when I see it. Should this be considered a Lemmy bug?

I’m also not sure if this comment will be visible on Mastodon. If so…uh, sorry?

shertson@lemmy.world on 26 Dec 2024 22:25 next collapse

I use the Fossify Gallery app for just that reason.

krupo@infosec.exchange on 27 Dec 2024 03:36 collapse

@shertson thank you for the suggestion I have just installed it and like what I see.

What a delightful bonus holiday present!

I like how it had its own recycle bin. Seems much snappier than Google Photos too!

ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world on 26 Dec 2024 23:38 next collapse

well obviously you were supposed to akready be on a paid tier with a higher range of storage capacity!

it’s not a bug. it’s a feature.

dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works on 27 Dec 2024 01:28 next collapse

What’s a dark pattern in this context?

CrayonRosary@lemmy.world on 27 Dec 2024 01:34 collapse

Even if you’ve already said “no backups” before, they sometimes prompt you the instant you open Photos with this pop-in. It defaults to “yes” and provides one button. Very easy to hit the button thinking you’re just dismissing something.

In the end, it’s one tap to enable, but FOUR taps to say no. That’s the real dark pattern here.

<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/b4f7dbce-dc20-43ec-a25a-c59202a74746.png">

You have to toggle the switch off, then tap the button, and then it nags you again! You have to tap “no” again, and then you have to press the original “no” button a second time. (The toggle will stay off, though.)

<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/3988b6d4-c1b8-45b7-939c-5d5124cad6cf.png">

Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca on 27 Dec 2024 03:55 next collapse

Anytime I see a toggle, I disable it. Don’t give a damn what it’s for, if the phones asking it’s probably trash

warmaster@lemmy.world on 27 Dec 2024 04:22 collapse

Do you want to avoid buying Google Photo Backup?

Toggle off

Thank you for your purchasing at our Darkest Pattern Store

redwater@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 27 Dec 2024 12:52 collapse

Wow. I never realized it was this bad for the backups.

This UI design and behavior is clearly predatory.

f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyz on 27 Dec 2024 02:32 next collapse

As a selling point, photo backup used to not count against Pixel owners’ Google account data storage maximum… then Google apparently sold enough Pixels to rescind the offer.

Markaos@discuss.tchncs.de on 27 Dec 2024 19:30 next collapse

The first few generations that were sold with the promise of unlimited photo backups still get that deal - if you find an old Pixel / Pixel XL and use it to upload your photos, they will not count towards your storage. A few more models then get unlimited uploads in “high” quality, and everything since I think Pixel 5 is completely out of luck.

toynbee@lemmy.world on 28 Dec 2024 21:22 collapse

What happens if I press alt while I read your name?

Lordran_Hollow@lemmy.world on 27 Dec 2024 12:24 next collapse

And when it happens, you can’t remove the photos from your backup without deleting it from all of your devices, forcing you to keep the backup if it’s a photo you like.

I’m not pleased. I did the same thing too not too long ago and now I’m sitting at 90% capacity

krupo@infosec.exchange on 27 Dec 2024 19:39 collapse

@Lordran_Hollow yeah, I had to do a google takeout to save a month to travel photos, that got accidentally removed from device, save those with multiple backups using my own personal backup protocol (as one should), then I was finally able to release the images from using up the free 15 GB allotment

chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz on 27 Dec 2024 13:24 next collapse

What is quota in this context?

Markaos@discuss.tchncs.de on 27 Dec 2024 19:27 collapse

The free storage limit in Google Drive

chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz on 27 Dec 2024 20:35 collapse

Isn’t that the inverse of a quota?

Markaos@discuss.tchncs.de on 27 Dec 2024 21:20 collapse

I’m not a native English speaker so 🤷‍♂️, but the term disk quota is commonly used to refer to this kind of limit.

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krupo@infosec.exchange on 28 Dec 2024 14:14 collapse

@clergyman @googlepixel thank you for the suggestion, just installed

Now I have a competition between Fossify and Aves happening :)

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grandma@sh.itjust.works on 27 Dec 2024 18:25 next collapse

Pixels are rapidly enshittifying

bokherif@lemmy.world on 28 Dec 2024 15:36 collapse

I really liked where Google was heading with the pixels as a smartphone, but then I keep remembering that Google is a shallow cunt hungry for data.