Alright, trying to leave both Chrome and Firefox at the same time is difficult, especially because I always use multiple browsers at the same time (to separate accounts for this or that without having
from DavidBHimself@firefish.city to firefox@fedia.io on 06 Mar 00:20
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Alright, trying to leave both Chrome and Firefox at the same time is difficult, especially because I always use multiple browsers at the same time (to separate accounts for this or that without having to switch accounts constantly). My current browser number three is Opera and so far, I'm not touching it (we'll see in the future).

My questions are basically: are LibreWolf and Vivaldi viable replacements as main browsers?

My main concerns are whether LibreWolf is mature enough and if both allow syncing between different devices (as I regularly use three computers).

Any constructive feedback is welcome.

(suggesting me to use that another browser I haven't mentioning without explaining why in detail is not constructive feedback, thank you)

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kitnaht@lemmy.world on 06 Mar 00:45 next collapse

Vivaldi is just Chrome. Opera is just Chrome.

Firefox forks just simply don’t have the manpower to update as rapidly as browsers need updating on the web today.

So your only real option right now is Firefox unless you just want a differently skinned Google browser, or a less-secure Firefox fork.

Firefox has containers you can make to keep accounts separate, and colors your tab based on the container it’s using.

addons.mozilla.org/…/multi-account-containers/

can@sh.itjust.works on 06 Mar 01:00 next collapse

Firefox forks just simply don't have the manpower to update as rapidly as browsers need updating on the web today.

In what way? I switched to LibreWolf a few months ago and haven't noticed anything. But admittedly I'm not asking much of it.

kitnaht@lemmy.world on 06 Mar 11:02 collapse

Say there’s a Zero-day exploit that gets found. LibreWolf is going to rely on Firefox to patch it, they aren’t going to have the resources and manpower to patch it themselves. That means they will always be behind.

Forks of the main project almost always lag behind the main project unless they somehow spin off and put more money/manpower into the project than the original author; and LibreWolf sure isn’t doing that.

Additionally, depending on how they plan to operate - their fork could slowly drift away from the original firefox fork, meaning more and more of their codebase has to be maintained by their team with respect to security. This means more potential for their own unique security flaws.

Mozilla/Firefox isn’t selling your data. This habit of Lemmy users to freak out and jump ship over every little thing is just silly.

bluGill@fedia.io on 06 Mar 12:45 next collapse

@kitnaht

@DavidBHimself @can

the question is how do we get a fork enough developers that they can support themselves independantly

can@sh.itjust.works on 07 Mar 02:13 collapse

.so I should just switch back?

kitnaht@lemmy.world on 07 Mar 03:41 collapse

Only if you're paranoid about security. It should be fine, generally.

can@sh.itjust.works on 07 Mar 15:19 collapse

I’m not, but also not sure what the benefit of LibreFox really is.

ademir@lemmy.eco.br on 06 Mar 02:36 collapse

So your only real option right now is Firefox unless you just want a differently skinned Google browser, or a less-secure Firefox fork.

exactly this. This is the best we will have under capitalism.

kitnaht@lemmy.world on 06 Mar 10:57 collapse

Could we leave the political shit out of this?

ademir@lemmy.eco.br on 06 Mar 12:57 next collapse

lol it is just the reality. The system is built around profit, that's it.

can@sh.itjust.works on 06 Mar 14:49 collapse

That's economics

moody@lemmings.world on 06 Mar 04:35 next collapse

If you want to separate accounts, Firefox has an official extension for containers. Anything in a container is isolated from anything outside of it. You can be logged in to the same site in multiple containers, or multiple sites in the same container.

DavidBHimself@firefish.city on 06 Mar 06:27 collapse

@moody The last time I tried containers, I didn't find them very practical. But I'll try again. Still, I like using different browsers, it helps keeps things clear and separate in my mind too ("this goes on this browser, that goes on that browser")

moody@lemmings.world on 06 Mar 13:37 collapse

That's fair, and you also avoid opening things in the wrong window by accident.

quickenparalysespunk@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 06 Mar 06:09 next collapse

i am syncing no problem with librewolf.

about Multi Account Containers extension, i also recommend this. however, it must be said this extension isn't compatible with android Firefox, probably not ios either but i haven't checked.

i am still researching Firefox forks on android.

foaylward@genomic.social on 06 Mar 00:37 next collapse

@DavidBHimself i switched from Firefox to Vivaldi and it went well. I haven't noticed any major gaps in functionality.

DavidBHimself@firefish.city on 06 Mar 06:23 collapse

@foaylward
Thanks.
Does Vivaldi syncs between devices? I tried it a while ago, but very briefly and it didn't seem to automatically sync (but maybe I missed something)

0xF21D@infosec.exchange on 06 Mar 00:55 next collapse

@DavidBHimself
LibreWolf is mature enough that I use it as my main driver.

LibreWolf takes advantage of the Firefox extension ecosystem, and because of that there are two really nice extensions to get the functionality of multiple browsers in one. Multi Account Containers will allow you to define different account containers and then open tabs in a specific container. If you log in to the same site with different accounts this will allow you to do exactly that. You can also completely isolate a site in its own containers.

For tab organization I recommend Tree Style Tabs or Sidebery. Both integrate Multi Account Containers.

It is my understanding that LibreWolf supports rolling your own sync account. I have not tried that yet but I know it’s possible.

DavidBHimself@firefish.city on 06 Mar 06:28 collapse

@0xF21D Thanks.

adnan@1210.nl on 06 Mar 07:20 next collapse

@DavidBHimself Vivaldi is my daily browser and it is very capable browser. You will be delighted.

Vivaldi does allow sync between different devices. You will need to create an account.

FWIW I am seriously considering shifting my Mastodon identity from my personal instance to their instance.

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adnan@1210.nl on 06 Mar 07:38 collapse

@DavidBHimself

Larger instance means that I can see all the replies in a conversation (thread)

I don't believe in solo instances for Mastodon. Instances should be shared by friends who know each other in real life. My criteria is that you’ll share an instance w/ a person only if you would invite them into your house. It has been three years, & almost none of my real-life friends have shifted from Twitter to here. Most gave up on social media altogether & only chat in large WhatsApp groups.

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kbal@fedia.io on 06 Mar 14:35 collapse

Librewolf is Firefox with all the stuff nobody wants removed. It's exactly as "mature" as the latest Firefox build it was based on. Slightly more so, really. It comes with more-secure settings which may or may not suit you, such as having fingerprinting resistance turned on by default.

Instead of using a completely different web browser, you could use a separate profile by starting librewolf (or firefox) with "-P" to select different profiles.